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Clarity on Ziggs Nerfs in Patch 4.11, Toxicity Causing Toxicity, IronStylus before Riot and Skins for Champions on VU List, New Rioter, CBLOL Team Summoner Icons and Lots More

July 2nd, 2014


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You can now get the logos of Brazil’s top teams as Summoner icons in the store.


NaKyle New PortraitThe Circuito Brasileiro (CBLOL) hosts Brazil’s top League teams, including the internationally-known paiN Gaming. Available now are permanent summoner icons featuring CBLOL team logos for 250 RPeach. If you’re a hardcore CBLOL fan, snag all eight icons for 1600 RP (20% off the full price).

Show off your team allegiance as they race to the top of the Brazilian scene and compete for a place on the world stage! As before, you’re not simply hoisting your team’s battle standard—20% of each purchase goes straight to the team, and the other 80% directly supports esports through prizing, streaming and live events!

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Everyone’s favourite parrot talks what he did before joining Riot Games, what his current job is and how the team balances VUs with skin releases.




Context: Mecha Aatrox & Malphite are new skins currently in testing on the PBE. You can check out previews of them here.


IronStylus New PortraitFact #1: I didn’t work on these skins. I really, really like these skins because I have a long-standing love of sci-fi art. Here. Have a colony construction ship:



Fact #2: My first “real” job as being a concept artist was on the season of Power Rangers SPD. I designed a LOT of sets, any prop that wasn’t used by the Japanese version of the show first, and a lot of other stuff. This is mostly what I did, back in the days of pen, marker and paper:

SPD art

I also designed and worked on the prototype model for the SPD laser firearm, which was a unique weapon not used by the Bandai production. I was only used by the NA actors in the Western iteration of the show:


(Blue Ranger Chris Violette there is still a buddy of mine 

This was really my break. I went from being a very cash-strapped college student to a slightly less cash-strapped entertainment artist. Since I initially did more sculpting than illustration, it was really difficult to draw and paint. Add to the fact that there was virtually no digital art pipelines at the time. Everything was traditional aside from scanning images and drawing/painting over them traditionally. I have cases filled with my old production art from the traditional days. Fascinating time. I learned a whole hell of a lot. Set me up to be the artist I am today.

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IronStylus New PortraitI’m the Senior Concept Artist on Champion Update (Relaunch) and therefore:

  • Design 2D concepts of the new base for champions I choose to work on as well as their respective existing skins.
  • In charge of cultivating concepts for champions I don’t work on from other artists.
  • Provide general 2D concept support for 3D, VFX, etc.
  • Other shenanigans.

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IronStylus New PortraitSince VU’s vary in scope and are subject to changes and hiccups, we don’t limit ourselves in terms of skins or updated splashes unless something is really wrong with the champion and/or that it’s somewhere in or in some sort of proximity to entering our production pipeline. 

…there’s a reason Eve hasn’t gotten any new skins recently.

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IronStylus New PortraitWe’ve been doodling around with some concepts.

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IronStylus New PortraitJust SPD. The guy I worked under had a contract for just that season. By then Power Rangers was changing stories each season. It was the most appropriate season though for both of us since we were very much sci-fi nuts with a love for practical effects.

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Ziggs Nerfs in 4 point 11 Banner

Ziggs was nerfed in Patch 4.11 in a way that’s worded somewhat confusingly. Meddler brings context on these changes and why they were made.



Meddler New PortraitThere are two different values that makes up Ziggs’ Q. The first is the detection radius. This is the value that, if the target is within it, will cause the bomb to detonate on the first and second bounces. That’s being nerfed from 180 to 150, making Ziggs more reliant on either predicting the enemy’s movement or using other abilities to set up his Q. The second radius determines how large the explosion actually is once the bomb goes off on hitting a target/at the end of the final arc. That’s unchanged in this patch and equal to 240 (for points of comparison Karthus’ Lay Waste has an explosion radius of 200). Not sure what’s up with the wiki.

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TLDR PortraitTL:DR – What’s being nerfed is the radius of detection around the bomb as it bounces ( if an enemy Champion is within that range, the bomb detonates) .




Meddler New PortraitThat’s a pretty good analogy yeah.

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Meddler New PortraitShort version is we believe he’s too strong, but in a way that’s relatively easy to adjust. There are definitely other champs that also need power changes, up or down, and we’re working on a number of them too as we prepare for the patch Worlds will be played on (still a way off, but one of our big focuses nonetheless).

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On EUW Forums, Ymir disproves a Summoner’s arguments that him being toxic because other players were toxic in the first place excuses his behavior.




Ymir New PortraitI’m going to swoop in and say that we’re not in Gotham City, which appears to be the overall thrust of some of the posting here. ‘YOU MADE ME,’ in the way you describe only really works when you’re yelling it at Batman and we, the audience, stroke our chins and consider the circular nature society.

There is something to be said for toxicity breeding toxicity and it’s why the core of what we do is preventative measures in part and aim to rehabilitate. People playing and realising that the most successful, fun way to play is playing with respect is a major part of that and in the main that is how most people play League of Legends.

It’s a myth that there’s monsters out there and there’s a pessimistic side of the internet that believes everyone outside of their group of friends is a monster. They’re just other people with their own flaws and a boatload of conflict comes down to expecting the worst from others. A mistake becomes an attempt to troll, advice becomes sarcasm and what you end up with is a whole load of normal people yelling monster at the mirror.

Losing the game then becomes intentional rather than understanding you can’t win every game but you can learn from them.

You have to make a break with that belief if you want to enjoy yourself. I’m intentionally not talking about our systems here because this entire thread is leaning way more to the side of trying to justify being a jerk.

There is never any justification for it, sure there may be reasons but if someone is a jerk then that is what gets remembered. It’s not a sign of victory, or running against the herd it’s just a small and petty thing that leads people to think you’re petty and small.

If you keep your head high then you’re not only known as a better person you feel like a better person. You can be passionate about winning and be nice, you can feel wild emotions about events in a game and be honourable. 

Everyone has passion and everyone feels emotion but it’s what you do with it that makes you you.

Just be a cool person and it doesn’t matter what other people do, you can report them and move on shaking your head. I often meet people and they ask how to not be punished in game, I always take that as how do I be a better person. Not just player, but person.

It’s pretty simple, stop it at your fingertips don’t let what you want to type out and be stronger. Just respect others and the rest comes easy, it shouldn’t matter what anyone else does because all that you can shape is yourself and by being positive you actually do have a positive effect.

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TLDR Portrait TL;DR – You can never justify being a jerk online. Toxicity causing toxicity is one of the things Riot tries to prevent with player behavior systems. Helping players understand that the most rewarding way to play LoL is by respecting both yours and the enemy team is a core priority. If you keep a positive attitude, you not only know you’re better for it, you feel better too. This applies to both in-game scenarios and real life.




Ymir New PortraitThat really isn’t the case, everyone is free to have their own view and the only thing that matters is behaviour in game. If you feel that something doesn’t work then we can try and explain why it works how it does or even look at feedback as it’s valuable.

I mentioned in the other post the talk in this thread is pretty distant from system discussion as it’s more about why people turn to extremity in game than what we have in play  What I was referencing there is that I’m not trying to change the minds of people I’m talking to, any discussion online is really a lot bigger due to readers than those taking part and it really helps to keep that in mind as when you start viewing what you write through the lens of an audience it can change your opinion as you question your position.

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Ymir New PortraitReports from a premade like that don’t work out anywhere near how the Community tends to believe, this is something we’ve stressed.

We’re pretty keen on carrot but we also use a lot of stick as well. What I do see is a few responses where people just outright refuse to believe that being the kind of guy you’d like to play with and against is a positive. I’ll be honest, I’m not trying to convince you as your mind is made up and you’ll either find your way or the system will find a way for you.

There’s a lot more readers here than posters and every interaction online is to the audience, this tends to be something people miss and there’s two messages in this thread for them. Be a cool person and you can do awesome things or that’s bollocks, just be a jerk because of…reasons.

Personally I think that first message is the one that resonates more with people. 

If you want to get rid of hippy stuff then our recidivism rate has been steadily going up all the time and as much as we aim to deliver on rehabilitation and better experience we have absolutely no qualms with taking any action that protects players. We’re not talking being saints here, just treat people good and you’ll not go wrong. 

The number of stories I’ve heard from people face to face at events who decided to try and be decent people and worked their way up the tiers is crazy. It helps you win games and it helps you to lose games with grace.

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TLDR Portrait TL;DR – Some players don’t believe that behaving in a way that makes other people enjoy playing with or against them is something positive. That’s what Riot hopes to reform with toxic players.




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Steiny New PortraitSup Oceania!

I’ve been blessed by Riot Games with the opportunity to Support Rioters along with the Community and troll as I deem fit. You’ll probably be seeing more of me on these forums so I wanted to give you a big ‘ol howdy introduction, with a “Ask me Anything” post.

Am I good a League – unfortunately even though I’ve been playing since Beta, I’m pretty mediocre. (not enough time dedicated to the game!) =(

What do I [email protected] – I configure/setup & support “IT related” technologies at the Riot office in Sydney. Including such things as troubleshooting issues & fulfilling request for printers, email, laptops, monitors, telephony, file shares, Rioter Accounts. To name a few things! 

What did I do before Riot – I worked in IT Desktop Support for a Managed Service Provider (pretty similar job, just not as cool of a company!)

What do I do in my spare time – I’m an avid traveler, that use to do a whole bunch of hiking and rock climbing. I now spend less time doing that and more time liking tasty craft beers and wines. Enjoy spending time with my other half and playing league whenever I can.

Favorite Beer – generally I like hoppy summery type beers but Bright Brewery down in the town of Bright in Victoria has my favorite beer of all time which is a Belgium’s Dubbel!



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Context: Quill Coat is a new item that builds into the reworked Spirit of the Ancient Golem.

ManWolf New PortraitHey dudes,

Ya, this is unintentional and has already been fixed internally. We may get the fix to live if there is a redeploy, otherwise it won’t be until next patch. I know that sucks, sorry all.

That being said, we do like the item and will be replacing the active for it and SotAG for TT – not just removing them.

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ManWolf New PortraitUpdate: The fix is already done and being tested. Once it’s “fit for live” we’ll be pushing it out. Won’t have to wait until next patch.

Sorry dudes and dudettes!

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Context: Bloodthirster got some pretty significant changes on the PBE test server. You can read them all here.

Meddler New PortraitBT’s not changing in 4.11. We are continuing to test that passive and it could end up in a later patch if it tests well. That’ll depend in part on how various ADCs perform and the ongoing impacts of the previous set of itemization changes as well though.

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Draggles New PortraitWe’re gonna have a message up about this shortly.

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Riot Noc New PortraitSummoners,

Due to some issues we are seeing in other regions after the 4.11 deploy, we’re postponing the 4.11 deploy for OCE at this time. We do not have a new time scheduled yet for the deploy and will update this post when we know more information.

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]