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Hextech Crafting Q&A: Player Value & Profit Concerns, Mastery Level Cap, IP Sinks, Purpose of Keys and More

January 14th, 2016

 

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Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe’re all done for today! Thanks for all the questions.*

Hey all!

We’re the Rioters behind Hextech crafting, loot, and the upgrade to Champion Mastery rewards and we’ll be jumping into this thread around 11:00AM PST (about an hour from now) to answer your questions about the design and testing of the new system.

First time you’re hearing about Hextech Crafting and Loot? Learn more about the 2016 Season changes at the updated website here and then ask your questions below!

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Why do the chests need keys to be unlocked

Kitae Final PortraitGreat question.

The TLDR is we wanted to reward different playstyles, and having different ways of earning chests and keys lets us to do that.

Chests are rewards for playing a diverse range of champions while demonstrating skill and teamwork. If you already play a diverse range of champions, or have friends you play well with, you’ll find it easier to earn chests than a solo player who has a narrow champion pool.

Keys are random rewards for winning matchmade games of League of Legends. You can play ARAM, Ranked, Normals etc. The intent here is you play League the way you want, so we’ll be tuning with the goal that you’ll earn keys at about the same rate regardless of which matchmade queue you are playing in or what champion you are playing. Drop rate is higher with friends, but you won’t need to play with friends to earn keys at a good rate.

What we’re going for with the above is players are rewarded for mastering a diverse range of champions, but players who prefer to play a smaller champion pool can still do most of the time.

I know there are some detailed questions about exactly how chests and key drops work, I’m going to leave that one for RiotSocrates to answer!

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Will Hextech Crafting be used in other ways in the future

Socrates New PortraitWe’ll likely be using this system for things like ranked rewards and other achievement rewards in the future. No details to share on this yet though.

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Have you considered adding any IP sinks to Hextech Crafting

Wingfield Final BannerWe didn’t include any IP sink in this iteration of the system, since we wanted it to be valuable to both new and old players and thought it was better to just give away the rewards for free rather than to (IP) charge for them.

With that being said, the problem of large IP balances is definitely on our radar and we’re looking at ways to help improve the situation this year.

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Is there a limit to the number of keys you can collect

Socrates New PortraitWe aren’t going into detail around key drops, but there are some safeties in place to ensure botting / grinding aren’t optimal strategies.

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If I already own all Champions then I cant use champion essence at al

Rayven New PortraitWe agree that getting stuff you can’t use is not a great experience. We are working on something for players in this situation, but don’t have any details to share at the moment.

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Is there a limit on how many chests keys you can buy with RP

Riot Mirross Final PortraitThere will be a daily limit on chests. We’ve considered IP purchase but it won’t be there initiatlly.

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Socrates New PortraitThere is a daily purchase limit on chests / keys, I believe it’s 10 or 20 per day.

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Will players receive chests for all the Level 5 Masteries they already have

Socrates New PortraitThe new rewards are purely based on S grades after the system goes live, so there won’t be additional rewards for having achieved level 5 on champs. That said, being level 5 on champ means you’ll probably achieve S grades more easily when the system goes live.

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How do we get essences and shards and what can we do with those

Wingfield Final BannerYou primarily get essences by disenchanting shards. You primarily get shards by opening chests. You get permanent loot by upgrading a shard (shard + essence) or by re-rolling 3 shards of the same type (e.g. 3 skin shards)

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When will we be able to get Mastery points from ARAM Dominion etc

Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe’re exploring adding Mastery to other queues – definitely for keys, maybe for grades and chests. It’s most likely to be in modes that you choose your champion though.

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Have you considered allowing us to gift via the crafting system

Riot Mirross Final PortraitIt’s something we’ve thought about but aren’t doing in the short term. It adds a lot of complexity and we wanted to get the first version of the system out as quickly as possible.

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Socrates New Portrait Gifting chest is a cool idea. Will look into this but not likely for launch.

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Does Mastery level change the drop rate on keys chests

Wingfield Final BannerNope, mastery level doesn’t change key/chest drop rate.

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Are you not worried that youll lose money because of Hextech Crafting

Wingfield Final BannerHey Ancienthardcore,

Great question! We don’t try to maximize dollars earned, but rather find a win-win balance of Player Value and Riot Value. We wanted to improve rewards and progression within League of Legends and thought the loot and mastery reward systems would be a great way to give players cool content for playing League and performing well with a diverse group of champs. We are also trying to bring players some of the lowest price points and biggest discounts for purchased content, so players can more easily build their collections.

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Is this system designed to make Riot more money

Riot Mirross Final PortraitIf you spend zero dollars and earn chests and keys then you will be able to get skins and other cosmetic items that you could never get before without spending money.

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Would you be willing to raiselower the cap on chestskeys gained

Wingfield Final BannerWe’re definitely going to be tuning and iterating over time based on player feedback.

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Can we get animated Champion icons for reaching a Level 5 Mastery

Riot Mirross Final PortraitThis is cool 🙂

Don’t think we can do animated summoner icons in the current client, but having a way to unlock something specific to those champions is something we’d love to add in future.

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Will it be possible to recycle some of our old skins for cosmetic essence

Socrates New PortraitThe loot inventory is separate from the store inventory, so you won’t be able to disenchant items you’ve purchased directly from the store or played with previously. You can use refund tokens if there are skins you no longer want and use the RP to get chests / keys.

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What type of skins can be permanently obtained

Wingfield Final BannerYou will be able to upgrade shards into permanent skins and re-roll shards into permanent skins. We have skins from 520 RP – 3250 RP. Legacy skins are included.

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Can we get Legendary or Legacy skins from the chests

Wingfield Final BannerHey RazzyBaroo!

Legacy, Legendary and Ultimate skins will be included (as shards which you can upgrade or re-roll into). Limited skins will not be included.

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If another teammate gets an S rank will I still get a chest

Riot Mirross Final PortraitYour scenario is correct, although it’s premade not just teammates. If someone in your premade gets an S (S-, S or S+) and you haven’t already earned a chest on the champion you’re playing, you get the chest.

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Will we be able to get Chromas from chests in the future

Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe’ve built Hextech Crafting as a really flexible system and we expect that we’ll be able to add new types of content in future. That said, we don’t have immediate plans to add Chromas.

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Riot Letumiles: The Hextech system was designed to be an extensible system that allows us to include all types of content, but we have not made any specific decisions on what will be included yet.

(P.S. I love Chromas too)

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How many things can be in a chest at a minimum

Wingfield Final BannerMinimum 1 item – typically a shard. Occasionally there can be an additional component in there like essence.

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How many times do we need to disenchant loot to create something

Wingfield Final BannerDepends on the value of the thing you’re trying to upgrade and what you’re disenchanting. Anywhere from one to many.

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How much essence will we get per chest

Riot Mirross Final PortraitCan you put examples on the quantity of essences we will get from the chests? What’s the minimum / maximum?

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How can we acquire keys

Riot Mirross Final PortraitThey drop randomly when you win games. It’s not mandatory to be in a premade but it does increase the drop rate a little.

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Riot Mirross Final PortraitChests drop if you get an S, or if someone in your premade gets an S, capped to once per champion per season.

Keys drop randomly when you win a game. We’ll be tuning the drop rates on PBE and future patches to look to balance it in the way you described.

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What would be the best worst possible results of opening a chest

Wingfield Final BannerWe’ve made sure that the value of the items you get from the chest is more than it costs, so there shouldn’t be any bad outcomes. Other than that, it all depends on your personal preference of what content you like. 🙂 You can get Ultimates

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Can I disenchant skins I already own

Rayven New PortraitNo, you won’t be able to disenchant unlocked content, just loot.

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Why dont you livestream the answering of questions your dev blog etc

Socrates New PortraitGreat suggestion. We will likely be doing a podcast and using a few other publishing channels as we get closely to launch.

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When will Champion Mastery levels 6 7 be unlocked

Socrates New PortraitWe don’t have any plans to increase the mastery level cap atm. We are planning on continuing to build on and improve champion mastery as a system though.

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Are there plans for any sort of trading system

Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe’re not planning on a trading system. It adds a huge amount of complexity that would have really slowed down how we could ship the system. It’s not ruled out, but not currently planned.

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Do you guys feel like confident about this launch

Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe feel great about the launch in that we’re really excited about the system and can’t wait for players to use it and give us feedback. You’re right that this is the first time we’ve had skins be earnable in this sort of way. That’s why we’ll be going to PBE for a longer than usual amount of time, and will do a beta in one region before we roll out everywhere else.

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Did you look into other games with similar features

Riot Mirross Final PortraitAll of the team play a ton of games so between us we’re familiar with similar systems elsewhere. We definitely tried to look at those systems and see what works and what doesn’t, as well as considering what sort of crafting system League needs. For example, we didn’t want to do something that adds a ton of overhead between each game, because after a great game, you generally just want to roll into the next game.

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