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Rek’Sai Q&A: Tunnel & Burrow Mechanics, WW’s Rework, Knock-ups on Champion Kits, Lissandra’s Passive, MIT Online Study and More

November 26th, 2014

 

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The community’s questions regarding Rek’Sai’s mechanics have been answered on both Reddit and forums. Also, we have a few discussions on Warwick, Lissandra, knock-up CC and the colors of Blood Moon Elise, as well as an offer to participate in an online study on teamwork done by MIT and Riot. Apologies for no TL;DR, rough day.

 

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Is RekSai invisible invulnerable while burrowed

DanielzKlein Final PortraitYou can totally see her and interact with her in every way you normally can: attack, hit with skillshots, hit with AOEs etc.

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Will RekSai play like a bruiser or an assassin

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitShe’s a fighter but her pattern operates more like an assassin. Her passive gives her the ability to enter a fight, mosh a little bit, back out and wait for cooldowns, and then go back in.

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How many tunnels can RekSai have at any one time

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitCurrently she can have 8 on the map at any given time.

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How long do tunnels last

DanielzKlein Final PortraitRight now tunnels last 10 minutes. You can destroy them by standing on them as the enemy. You even get some gold.

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Do these 10 minutes count down separately for tunnels

DanielzKlein Final PortraitYes, each tunnel has its own cooldown when used.

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Can enemies destroy her tunnels

DanielzKlein Final PortraitYes, enemy champs can destroy tunnels by standing on them, currently takes 1.5s (totally subject to change). She is completely visible underground.

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So if an enemy steps on one end RekSai can exit from the other

DanielzKlein Final PortraitYou kill the pair by stomping on either end.

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Does a knockup when burrowed unburrow her

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitGetting knocked up does not un-burrow her. Tried this at one point but forced state changes just end up confusing the player as to which state they’re in.

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Is her ult canceled if a tunnel shes ulting towards is destroyed

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitHer ultimate can be difficult to set up. It also has a global sound effect attached to it. Due to these reasons, we defer to the Rek’Sai player once the ultimate is cast.

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Can teammates use these tunnels

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitNope.

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DanielzKlein Final PortraitThere was this one ultimate once upon a time…

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Does the burrowed detection give info only to RekSai

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitRek’Sai’s team sees her Tremor Sense as well.

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Does RekSai need Fury to burrow

Beat Punchbeef Final PortraitShe doesn’t need it to burrow. It gives her health based on how much Fury she has when she burrows.

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If burrowing only limits vision isnt it useless

DanielzKlein Final PortraitIf you’re calling regeneration, extra movement speed, and an enemy movement sensing ability with nearly a full screen’s range useless, then yeah, totally! Also you only get to make tunnels while burrowed, and unburrowing knocks people up.

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If global ults are bad for the game why does RekSai have one

Meddler Final PortraitFree movement global ults are something we felt needed to be removed and something we don’t have any plans to make more of. Those with conditions to be used by contrast, such as Shen ult or Rek’Sai ult, don’t generate the same problems.

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Sign up for Online Study on Teamwork by MIT and Riot

Lyte Final Portrait We would like to invite you to a study conducted by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in collaboration with Riot Games. We’re interested in exploring the ability of a team to perform a wide range of collaborative tasks, and will measure this using an online battery of tasks your team will work on together.

To qualify for this study, you have to be part of a Ranked 5s Team that has played at least 20 games together this season on the NA Server. Once you complete the following tasks below, we will grant you a reward on your main accounts:

  • An online screening survey individually (takes approx. 20 minutes); AND
  • An online battery of tests with ALL members of your team simultaneously (takes approx. 1 hour).

At the end of the study, we’ll also send you a scorecard of your team’s ability in skills like decision-making, execution, sensing and memory.

Participation in the study is completely voluntary and all information used in the study will only be linked to your summoner name. Privacy is one of our highest priorities and all data gathered during the experiment will be stored securely. We will only publish data in summary form, so it will not be possible to link the data to an individual person. The study has been accepted by the Institutional Review Board at MIT.

To participate in the study, please have one team member, on behalf of your team, sign-up your Ranked Team here: http://goo.gl/forms/Sv5mjpGGZw

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What happened to the announced Warwick rework

Vesh Final PortraitZenontheStoic (Daniel Klein) was actually working on a WW kit but he ended up shifting over to Azir. Since then, the Champion Update team has been formed and we will be doing projects like this. There’s so many champions that we want to update to various degrees that it’s a careful balancing act of what we work on first. Some projects can be worked on simultaneously and some cannot. WW will need new visuals and animations even if we were just talking about gameplay because at the very least we will need new VFX for new spells.

Some other characters like Trist have really clear spaces for improvement visually and need very little gameplay changes (or sometimes none in the case of Maokai).

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Will Lissandras passive be reworked

Meddler Final PortraitTried a number of variants on shield passives, didn’t find a version that generated engaging gameplay for her however (just added tankiness basically). Would still like to find a more satisfying passive for her, want something that creates some interesting decisions though, particularly if its adding significant power.

Not sure why her base mana wasn’t changed with the standardization of other mages, will follow up on that, check if deliberate decision or overlooked.

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Why arent new champions balanced before release

DanielzKlein Final PortraitThere is no amount of pre-release testing that comes close to the level of exposure a champion gets during the first two hours after release, when literally millions of players who take winning seriously try to make the champion work. The numbers just don’t work out. We can only ever get in the right ball-park, and for champions with game changing abilities (which is all we want to make now, of course) even that can be hard. We’ve erred on the side of undershooting since Braum, I think.

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Will a future champion use Rumbles Heat resource

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ve talked about using Heat on another champion occasionally, it’s not something we feel must remain a Rumble only thing. Would definitely want to offer a different take on it while retaining the same core rules (build heat through ability casts, at max heat lose some functionality) though, avoid just rehashing Rumble’s gameplay.

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Can you make Blood Moon Elise pink again

[ Note ] Blood Moon Elise got her color palette bloodied in a recent PBE update.

KateyKhaos Final PortraitThe feedback for Blood Moon Elise initially versus the changes that hit PBE yesterday were about the same, actually. (I’ve been collecting feedback for the skin.) The team’s aware of player feelings for both the initial color, as well as the color most currently on PBE. We’ve been discussing it.

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Knockups are becoming too common in champion kits

Meddler Final PortraitHey all,

Wanted to throw in some of our thoughts on displacements here for a bit of context, given they’re definitely a CC type we’re using more that has both some costs and some benefits to the game relative to other types of CC.

First off, some details on why we’ve been using displacements more/what we feel the benefits of displacements are:

  • Displacements are clear. Having the unit(s) affected move makes it clear who a spell’s hit and, provided the displacement arc or knockback distance is understandable, helps all players involved track the duration of the CC as well.
  • Displacements are visceral. A knockup can often feel better for the caster than a significantly longer duration stun, leading to better satisfaction from the same power budget.
  • Displacements, if there’s a noticeable amount of knockback included, add some extra play to how a spell’s used, giving players more ways to optimize and more options to play around. Not all hits are equal basically (e.g. a great knockback, versus an ok knockback versus a terrible knockback that helps the enemy), giving another point of mastery for players of the champion in question.

On the cost side:

  • Displacements over large distances can make it harder to track where champions, your own especially when moved suddenly against your will, are in a busy fight. Using relatively short range displacement helps avoid this being a significant cost however.
  • Displacements diminish the value of Tenacity and Cleanse. That means players have fewer responses against them.
  • With regards to Tenacity, item based counterplay tends to be relatively poor if the item’s not one that changes your gameplay noticeably (e.g. Zhonya’s via its active, Bloodthirster since sustain modifies how you look to trade/fight, Boots of Mobility significantly impact how you initiate, ward etc) since it’s otherwise just a single decision, based off team comp and lane match up. Tenacity items don’t have a particularly significant impact on playstyle however, so the loss of interesting gameplay there’s pretty limited.Tenacity’s also harder to access for many classes (deliberately), so often irrelevant, and the vast majority of the counterplay associated with CC is almost always to avoid the skill in question (whether by dodging, staying out of range, not being a tempting target etc).
  • Cleanses not removing displacements by contrast is a higher cost and one it’s important to be aware of, particularly with regard to champions with burst who’ll potentially kill a target within the duration of a single CC.

Some other notes:

  • CC durations on new champs/major reworks nowadays are generally significantly shorter than those used on the original 40 champs. In terms of raw numbers new champions will tend to have more displacements than the original lineup, but those will tend to be of shorter durations (we’re trending away from abilities like Morgana’s Dark Binding, Rammus’ Puncturing Taunt or Fiddlestick’s Fear with extremely long CC durations via a single skill).
  • Displacements do interrupt dashes/leaps in progress which gives them extra power relative to most other CCs. Having counter mobility options like that in the game as a common tool’s got significant value however and as above that power’s offset against shorter CC durations.
  • Like many other effects displacements do lose some of their value as a tool when used too often and we have certainly gone through a solid run of champions with displacement on their kits. The next champ up after Rek’Sai will almost certainly not have a knockback or knockup and it’s highly likely that the champ after that won’t either. We’ll definitely continue to use displacements where, as above, it’s appropriate, they’re not something that should be found on every new character however.

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