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This discussion is in reference to yesterday’s massive patch, which you can check out HERE.

 

Patch 516 Juggernaut Reworks and Item Changes Discussions

Meddler Final PortraitHi all,

Wanted to link a bunch of discussions going on on the PBE boards at the moment regarding the various changes in the 5.16 patch, given threads on the PBE boards tend to have lower visibility than stuff here. Lot more change than the average patch going on, with some stuff that looks pretty weird, overpowered or over-nerfed at least at first read. Lot of details in the threads below that hopefully offer some context on what we’re thinking and what we believe the impact of some of these changes will be.

These threads are on the PBE forums specifically to gather feedback from people that are testing/will test the changes in game. Very interested in feedback from other people as well though of course, and currently reading a lot of it both here and on various 3rd party sites. As usual these are PBE changes and therefore subject to change as we polish kits, balance numbers, fix bugs etc. There are also some changes that are much more, or less, impactful in game than they may appear at a glance on paper (e.g. Morde gaining a bit of extra attack range).

Skarner:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/d2bmpMif-skarner-pbe-changelist-and-feedback-thread

Garen:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/Y7ELMJAK-garen-pbe-changelist-and-feedback-thread

Darius:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/Grx91k8I-darius-pbe-changelist-and-feedback

Morde:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KhcvQBlG-mordekaiser-change-summary-feedback-thread

New Items:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/rFbd7hyy-new-items-steraks-gage-and-titanic-hydra

Defensive Item Changes:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/yMtrbjGs-core-defense-items-pass-516

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Do you want our negative feedback on the changes

Meddler Final PortraitYes, I’d definitely like to hear the grievances people have with these changes, discussions like this one are one of the main reasons I spend time on the forums in the first place.

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Why are you changing so many things in a single patch

Meddler Final PortraitWe’re putting a lot of stuff in 5.16 for a few reasons:

  1. These are changes that have been developed together that tie in with each other. The state of Morde, Garen etc is going to be highly impacted by the items available to them. Releasing champ changes and items separately means having to wait longer to get a true read on how they interact with each other.

  2. After 5.16 we want to start focusing on balance and stability as we prepare for the patch Worlds will be played on (most likely 5.18). Putting all the disruption into one patch, and then taking a couple to balance it, gives us more time to catch issues than spreading it out over 3 patches and then not having any reaction time to issues that emerge in the third patch.

  3. We feel we’ve been a bit too conservative in the past in the run up to Worlds. Worlds should involve a stable patch, that teams can focus on, ideally with any massive balance outliers. That’s not to say it should reflect a game state that’s been unchanged for so long it’s starting to feel stale though. It’s about two months until Worlds right now, which we feel’s a good time to introduce some change before, as above, shifting gears to balance/polish.

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Why are you doing these massive changes right before Worlds

Xypherous Final PortraitWe have roughly 2 1/2 months of lead up to worlds and so at least 2 full patches to respond to any massive directional imbalances.

As for how massive this is – while there are a lot of items on the changelist itself – it’s mostly small tuning steps with one or two exceptions. Similar to how AP itemization goes – while there is a lot of holistic polish across the board – the net overall change should be moderate – at least for these core passes.

While I understand that’s not a super satisfying answer – I believe this is the last major update of the year in which a lot of things are happening and thus these item changes are meant to be a polish and tuning step to support a somewhat better ecosystem for those changes to live in.

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A huge patch right before Worlds means pros wont have time to adapt

Pwyff Final PortraitSorry if I don’t respond immediately. I occasionally comment and then go do work. I get that being deliberately inflammatory on the internet is how you get responses, and I hate rewarding that, but let’s actually talk about this because I don’t think we’re 100% correct, but at least we have good reasons.

First, I think it’s worth discussing what constitutes ‘too much change’ for pro play vs. regular play. There’s definitely a subjective concept (survey pros! survey players!), but I wonder what is objectively considered too much for a pro player to adapt on a patch to patch basis. That’s a super philosophical question.

Regardless, it’s worth noting that 5.14 is the patch that all of the playoffs are being played on (per esports’ commitment), and then a later patch (definitely post-5.16) will be the standardized patch that Worlds will be played on. Pros do get a period of time between playoffs and worlds to practice.

So here’s where we get to the concept of what makes a competitive player. Every game out there values specific things, from Counter-Strike’s commitment to reflexes, snap aim, tactical map movement, or Quake’s movement-based, tracking-aim, power-up placement memorization. League’s always valued player adaptability to a high degree – probably higher than most competitive games. We know there are benefits (from a spectating perspective games are more varied, strategies are being changed up, different playstyles can shine and truly talented teams can demonstrate their mastery by staying ahead of the curve) and drawbacks (players feel they have to ‘re-learn’ the game, optimization of singular strategies isn’t possible, players with narrow champion pools are negatively impacted).

In other words, I’d challenge stability as the ultimate indicator of a competitive player. Faker has long been heralded as the pinnacle of League talent, and we appreciate him because of his tireless commitment to mastering core game mechanics and systems, while also innovating with an evolving game. I’d also mention, I don’t think these changes are so massive that they reinvent all that is League of Legends – they offer new strategic paths, but I have no way of objectively verifying just how much more powerful new, emergent strategies are vs. players believing they are.

All that said, I’m not saying this is a fool-proof argument – if we hear a lot of discussion that this is just too much, that teams just can’t accommodate, then this is definitely a lesson for the future. I just want to make sure we both realize we’re coming from two very different perspectives on what makes a good, competitive game of League.

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Can we expect new mechanics on Nunu Mundo Fizz or Aatrox

Meddler Final PortraitAatrox definitely needs some work, agreed, he does some fun stuff, but it’s too general overall.

Mundo, with his massive regen, poke from a traditionally poke weak class and berserker playstyle (benefits for low health) is someone we feel’s pretty close to distinct enough. Would be good to do some smaller stuff on him at some point, we feel other champs need the work a lot more though.

Nunu we feel’s extremely unique. Long duration MS/AS buff he can keep on multiple targets, extremely strong objective control off a base ability, repeated attack speed slows from a support like champion and an ult that controls space in a pretty distinct way with extreme punishment after a long telegraph.

Current assessment is Fizz is in a reasonable spot, given the uniqueness his Shark and Troll Pole offer, both in terms of playstyle and relative to other assassins. Might need to reward him more for AP builds/less for tanky ones, not sure on that front. As with Mundo though some opportunity to differentiate him a bit more with small changes, but a champ we feel’s got a strong need.

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Can you give us more info on the upcoming changes to Shyvana Olaf

Meddler Final PortraitWe haven’t started work on Shyvana or Olaf yet besides some really rough brainstorming, in part because we want to see how these changes, and the associated item changes, go. Assess what works, what doesn’t, where we should have taken things further or pulled back etc.

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Will Shyvana still be able to carry games

Meddler Final PortraitCan’t offer you any details on what changes to her kit might look like, we haven’t started talking about that ourselves yet. Would definitely expect her to retain a strong damage focus.

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You can find all the changes to Darius HERE.

 

New PBE changelist for Darius

Statikk New PortraitHey all,

Got some time to test him out this morning and talk with the playtest team.

We definitely feel his presence in team fights is way higher than he was previous to these changes.

My current concerns lie within the consistency of his laning phase and if he’s just bit too soft there.

Here’s the changelist you guys will see in the next build:

Q

  • Mana cost reduced to 30 from 40

W

  • Slow is now 90% at all ranks from 40/50/60/70/80%

E

  • Slow adjusted to 90% for 1 second from 99% for 0.75

These changes are aimed at making combo’d Q’s pretty much guaranteed. We want to ensure that there is still ample counter-play to the Q when used alone, but we’re pretty happy with Darius making it much easier for himself if he uses up his other resources successfully.

Overall, we don’t feel Darius is far off balance-wise in either direction, so we would like to take small steps at a time. We’re also really interested in how Darius progresses over time as people get used to the new Q.

Thanks guys.

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Responding to community feedback on the Darius update

Statikk New PortraitGonna address a couple of points I’ve seen brought up:

E’s Slow

Currently it’s set to be a 90% slow for 0.75 seconds. It is designed to help ensure that E -> Q is a fairly guaranteed combo.

Lack of an Execution Indicator

We purposely left this out of Darius’s update for design reasons. Darius’s design and balance actually revolves around his R’s success and failures more than any other champion in the game.

Because of this when we added an indicator, the Darius gameplay became too much about just reacting to a UI element changing rather than making interesting, risky, and snappy decisions in the heat of battle that might cascade into a pentakill.

In a lot of cases we would prefer consistency across our champions, but in the Darius case we feel like the lack of the indicator allows us to retain power in certain areas and makes him more enjoyable in the long run.

Removal of Passive Movement Speed

This is essential to the direction we are moving the Juggernauts. They are intended to be and feel slow, but hopefully have a ton of other strengths to bring to the table to compensate.

This change became extremely important to make especially after we changed Hemorrhage to deal physical damage due to the insane synergy Darius now has with Black Cleaver.

Q Delay

Along with Bloodrage, this is the most significant change we made to the kit and we feel it’s 100% necessary for the long-term health of the champion. We’ve struggled in the past to make melee vs. melee combat interesting and skill-based, so this is us trying to address that.

I know it can be pretty painful to get used to, but we’ve tested it pretty thoroughly and feel you guys will be able to get the hang of it. Adding the delay allows us to load more power into the Q (the heal and increased late game damage) without just making him unstoppable in lane and other dueling scenarios.

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How about making the delay on his Q scale down with levels

Statikk New PortraitThat’s an interesting thought. We definitely have struggles keeping gameplay fair as the speed and pace increases later in the game.

Haven’t tried that yet, but it sounds super intriguing. If we find that he is not able to hit Q’s later in the game, this might make sense.

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Statikk New PortraitDefinitely seeing the echo of Q being weaker early and also harder to hit. Very much open to making sure his Q feels right in the lane given the more skill-based gameplay it has now.

Gonna get in a few games on him today and talk with the playtest team to see what we can do.

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Did you intentionally make Darius an even slower fighter

Statikk New PortraitYeah Darius is one of the more pure, raw Juggernauts in the game. He truly has no movement bonuses and has fairly limited reach (though his reach is better than some of the other Juggernauts that do exist).

Hopefully Darius feels powerful for being that clean-up monster that none of the other Juggernauts can bring to the table.

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So you arbitrarily designed that a class of immobile fighters should exist

Statikk New PortraitWell, I wouldn’t say “arbitrarily.”

Juggernauts were always a class of champions that we attempted to design (slow, tanky, high damage). We are simply taking a hard look at what we were trying to initially design, finding out where we went wrong in the past, and getting them to work in the modern day of LoL without just turning them all into the same generic champion.

Skarner and Garen are definitely on the fast side of Juggernaut while Darius is on the other side. We think it’s possible to make sure Darius can be stronger than the other 2 in different areas instead.

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Did you fix Apprehends range to be 550 not 540

Statikk New PortraitWe basically re-coded the entire spell to function in the manner we wanted. The E should now be entirely accurate.

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You can find the complete changelist of Garen compared to live HERE.

 

Dont you think nerfing the silence from 25 secs to 15 is a bit much

Repertoir New PortraitMaybe it is, but I think 1.5 seconds still feels pretty substantial. If, for some reason, it’s too short, it could maybe bump upward a bit.

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Repertoir New PortraitIf there’s any part of the changelist that’s too much, I’ll be happy to reel it in. All data we have so far suggests that he’s at least as powerful as Live with these changes, and likely quite a bit stronger.

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Why was Courage W reverted to farming minions for flat bonus resists

Repertoir New PortraitThe flat Armor/MR model actually makes more sense in a world where Garen wants to build a lot of Health items (which he should have readily available to him in this patch). I think you may be right that it takes too long to farm currently, though. I’ll keep an eye out for that. This shouldn’t be too much of a nerf, since the Health items coming this patch (Sterak’s Gage, Ravenous Hydra, Warmog’s update, etc.) should allow him to build an abundance of Health and get more of what he needs in fewer items. I totally understand not liking the Tenacity nerf, but we do feel it’s important that Tanks and CC-heavy supports feel good about their efforts to peel the big tanky dudes running at their teams.

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The late game buff to Judgement means Garen will need ArPen items

Repertoir New PortraitThis skill also has a 5.5 Total AD ratio in the late game, so I don’t think it’s only amped by Penetration. Black Cleaver should be even better on him now, due to the higher AD ratio, as well as the fact that he’ll stack the passive faster due to the increased tick rate of Judgment.

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Why does Judgement slow Garen when hes moving toward enemies

Repertoir New PortraitThis change is intended to improve play during the back half of Judment. Keep in mind, the cooldown of this spell is lower, so you’ll get to cast it more often, and there’s also a cooldown incentive to turning it off early if the enemy has escaped it, meaning it will become available to cast even sooner. He does a significant amount more damage now, and he was probably too sticky to merit it. Garen was allowed to have that level of stickiness before because his damage just wasn’t relevant in the later stages of the game most often, but it should be now.

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His current and new Ws are stale abilities with little gameplay involved

Repertoir New PortraitHis W is pretty darn boring, but individual abilities can be somewhat bland if there is added complexity to the kit elsewhere. In Garen’s case, we wanted to keep him available as a beginner player option, and we took some complexity out of W active, put we put some back in the R passive, E activation, and W passive farming.

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Will the total duration of Judgement change from 3 seconds

Repertoir New PortraitThe total duration is always 3 seconds, so the game starts with it at 5 ticks per spin, and increases to 6/7/8/9/10 ticks per spin at levels 4/7/10/13/16.

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Repertoir New PortraitLate game Judgment damage (all ticks combined) should be 280 + 5.5 TotalAD from 360 + 3.3 TotalAD

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You can find Morde’s complete changelist HERE.

 

 

Bot lane Morde will probably need to start Doran Shield or Cloth 5 pots

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ve also seen some Morde’s start Targon’s, particularly if they’re paired with a support that’ll really value the extra healing from that (supports that trade aggressively for example). Not sure if that’s optimal yet, worth a look though.

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If a team takes Mordekaiser bot lane they will probably take an ADC mid

Meddler Final PortraitThat’s what we’ve seen in most internal playtests so far. Some non ADC teams, lot of mid or top (or very occasionally jungle) ADCs.

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What supports have been getting picked to lane with Mordekaiser

Meddler Final PortraitSupports with strong CC have been the most consistently successful so far in testing, since they let Morde get onto targets with his Q and set up well for the W damage field. Double Targon’s has also proven at least moderately effective, again not sure if that’s necessarily optimal or not though.

It’s likely this direction will make it quite a bit harder for Morde to solo lane, given the amount of benefit he gets from duo laing. That’s rough on people that enjoy solo Morde, we did feel this was the right approach to take though to get Morde into a spot where he could be made effective without having to massively change him overall. We believe Morde’s strengths and weaknesses can be preserved, or even amplified, in a way that’s a lot more functional/healthy when he’s got an ally to fill in some of his gaps.

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Are you just looking to fit Mordes kit on some lane in a healthy way

CertainlyT New PortraitYour understanding of the changes is accurate. My goal is not to “use Morde to break the meta” but to find a healthy home for Mordekaiser where he can be successful while still being himself (slow, tough, CC-free overwhelmingly powerful damage dealer). My feeling was that for this sort of profile, the champion could not be both successful and healthy on their own. Morde needs someone to help cover his weaknesses and actualize his strengths. Supports stood out as natural complements. They too are incomplete champions, lacking damage but bringing a lot of CC and ally buffs/hastes.

There is no unherent reason why playing Mordekaiser bottom lane will cause teams to lose. Structurally, he has the ability to forcefully push games to a conclusion by using his dragon to smash down the enemy base. In testing, we have had just as many games where he succeeds as fails.

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Will you be trying to make more melee champions viable on the bot lane

CertainlyT New PortraitNot at the champion design level. I think there are a few possibilities that Mordekaiser could demonstrate:

1) Melee bot lanes generally are… are sufficiently enjoyable for all players and sufficientlystrategically interesting to warrant further proactive steps by us to dislodge players from their habits;
2) The existence of one occasional melee bot lane is interesting and enjoyable but does not warrant further steps by us;
3) Melee bot lanes generally are interesting and enjoyable, but Mordekaiser is a poor execution of one;
4) Melee bot lanes are antithetical to “good” LoL design, and so we should not seek to support them.

Personally, I feel that #4 is unlikely. This means the central question is largely about whether a) there should be more melee bot lanes and b) at what level that “pushing” should come from us. Candidly, Mordekaiser is pretty “forced”.

I would love for players to feel that they can identify situations to run a wider number of existing champions successfully as the duo lane carry. In fact, Yasuo was an effort in this direction. Unfortunately, he is either ineffective in that capacity (though statistically bot lane duo is his highest win rate) or players are uncomfortable playing non-traditional styles. If the latter is true than I see my role as a designer not to “push” more champions into the lane but to create social and strategic space for players to innovate.

This, then, is my hope for Mordekaiser: that his presence in the bottom lane spurs players to think more broadly about how they can build team composition that have a greater diversity of champion archetypes without the need for us to customize kits to that lane.

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How will Mordekaiser deal with being kited by the enemy ADC

CertainlyT New PortraitWell, your task is to find a teammate that can prevent him from being kited. If you can do so, you’ll probably win the game. Good luck!

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Isnt the nerf to his base movement speed overkill

CertainlyT New PortraitIt might be. I certainly didn’t start at 325. In fact, I was very hesitant and moved him down 5 MS at a time as opponents reported being completely unable to escape his onslaught. A major factor for this is that Mordekaiser has the base damage and base survivability to invest into a lot of movement speed items as the game progresses (Our playtesters often build him Targons–>Ninja Tabi->Phage->Trinity Force->Raptor Cloak->Rylai’s).

I think you might also be coming at this from the perspective of someone who has played “traditional” melee bot lanes, that must function as aggressive kill lanes in order to find any success. Mordekaiser has the scaling and defenses to whittle his opponents down and wait for a good opportunity (like a Thresh hook).

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Can you cast Mordes new W on yourself without allies present

CertainlyT New PortraitHarvesters of Sorrow (W) is not castable without an ally champion present. If you are alone as Mordekaiser, you’ll have to do without it unless an ally ganks/roams for you.

As others mentioned, Morde is still able to solo lane/jungle in our testing, but doesn’t shine as brightly as he does in a duo lane. I’m comfortable with that mainly because I do not think that Mordekaiser can ever be a marquee example of a healthy solo lane champion given how stark his strengths and weakness profile is — An excessive number of his lane matchups are determined either at champion select or through jungler intervention, not through the relative skill of Mordekaiser and his lane opponent. As I began to work on his mechanics though, the thing that stood out was how defined Mordekaiser was by those stark strengths and weaknesses. To round out his kit would have been to compromise him as a champion.

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Why the AD scaling on his E

CertainlyT New PortraitE in my mind is most healthy as a “parry” ability that provides a lot of instant shield. As a nuke, it lacks good play against most opponents, who can’t help but get into its range. As such, the damage had to come down a bit in the early game. I didn’t want the player to have to invest all their early skill points in a fundamentally passive skill, but rather in their preferred means of inflicting damage on their opponent.

Total AD scaling allows the ability to ramp up gradually across game time so that it is hopefully always meeting the needs of providing a “twitchy” active defense against enemy poke.

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Why are you changing Skarner again

Repertoir New PortraitWe wanted to give something to Skarner to optimize around other than just run at a guy. Adding potent zones of threat was our take on that for him.

Also, I think there’s a misunderstanding about how much potential gold these things give out as well, but I’ll look into that to make sure they’re not giving out too much.

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Wont the crystals force Skarner to afk farm until a fight happens near them

Repertoir New PortraitWe don’t just want him to afk farm the jungle forever, but we are okay with his jungle presence being higher than his lane presence overall in the early game. Also, his E is a substantially stronger ganking tool now with how easily it applies the old passive stun, so he does make up for some of the loss of entry speed there if he hits it.

Also, the MS nerf may simply not be needed. We’ve tested various versions of this Skarner, and it seems to be quite strong still, but it’s totally undertandable that players would be concerned over such a big base MS nerf. If it looks like he needs it, we can certainly give it it back. This changelist likely isn’t final yet.

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Wont the crystals make it so Skarner clears certain camps faster than others

Repertoir New PortraitHe’ll definitely have some camps that he clears faster than others now. With the crystals’ placement, he clears Red, Blue, Krugs, Wolves, and Crab incredibly well now, and isn’t quite as fast on Gromp and Razorbeaks. Also, the stun only takes 1 basic attack to trigger now following a hit E, so the loss of AS shouldn’t affect that.

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It looks like Skarner will be forced to fight in certain places to be useful

Repertoir New PortraitSkarner should still have a pretty reliable tank/lockdown threat (probably even greater than before in this regard, given how is E now works) outside of his passive zones. What the zones really provide to him is incredibly boosted DPS and stickiness.

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These shrines are free 30 gold and vision for the enemy jungler

Repertoir New PortraitThe vision on these things only lasts 10 seconds at the time they are captured, so they don’t really give much vision outside of the initial cap. And the gold they give out is basically symmetrical. In order for the enemy team to capture it and gain 15g, Skarner’s team has to own it (and they will hold it until the enemy team turns it over). Likewise, Skarner and his teammates will get 15g for recapturing it later. I do need to put in a better solution for level 1 gold provided by them right now, though.

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The 15 base MS nerf is unneeded since the stacking MS on his Q is gone

Repertoir New PortraitDefinitely keeping an eye on this. 15 MS nerf may not be the right number. Could be 5, 20, or 0. I’ll continue to monitor.

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Can you clarify why youve removed so much from Skarners Q

Repertoir New PortraitHis Q definitely still grants him bonus damage. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. The damage it deals is (TotalAD ratio) and an additional (TotalAD ratio + AP ratio) when charged. His clear speed is actually faster now.

You are right about him doing less dps in ganks now, but the ease at which he stuns enemies via E is increased pretty substantially, and the duration of the stun early game is a bit longer.

Feedback from playtesters has been that his E offers a higher total utility package than before, but I’ll keep an eye out for it.

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You can find all the item changes coming to Patch 5.16 HERE.

 

Why are Magic Resist items being buffed

Xypherous Final PortraitMR itemization, especially end-game is not particularly stronger overall than it was before. (AKA – total end-game values of MR are relatively static compared to live. While Banshee’s and Visage have +5 MR – Aura MR is down by 5, for example.)

However, the build path for MR is a lot smoother to access – so reacting to an enemy AP should be easier. This nicely lines up with the changes made in AP to make building into a lot of AP items more streamlined.

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Why is Cinderhulk being nerfed

Xypherous Final PortraitWhenever Cinderhulk was problematic – we generally saw it was the case of late game – super unkillable tank of ‘oh god why.’

Thus the changes are designed to pull back on that case in particular – by shifting power from the multiplier to the base.

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Xypherous Final PortraitCinderhulk should be more powerful mid-game to compensate. It won’t actually be a nerf until you surpass 1k bonus health (AKA 3 complete health items).

The issue with Cinderhulk is that after this point, it became rapidly hard to control the impact of any health item in the game – as the effects of said item were wildly variant – hence the adjustment.

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Xypherous Final PortraitIt’s true that Cinderhulk is nerfed in the late game after your 3rd major Health purchase. However, until you hit 1000 bonus health – you are strong that you were previously.

With the jungle items in their current state – if you wanted someone to be strong in the extreme late game – your first option probably wouldn’t be tanks to begin with given that there are multiple routes for end-game success in the jungle that it’s running directly into.

The other facet of this is that if Cinderhulk has to compete in the end-game against these other two – what it effectively would have to do is create unstoppable characters that cannot be killed – and so even if it does work – it wouldn’t be a state we’d be particularly happy with.

Therefore, by shifting Cinderhulk’s impact to be more impactful mid game and less impactful late game – the item actually has a window to shine – rather than be overshadowed end-game by a devourer or completely dominant when it is good.

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What do the Thornmail changes mean for tanks who want to counter ADCs

Xypherous Final PortraitYou need to hard commit to armor in order to screw ADCs in the new Thornmail model – and ADCs that build crit can ignore Thornmail more than more AS centric ones.

If you’re trying to deal the same damage to a critical carry as before – you’ll need like 200 to 350 bonus armor (depending on the damage of the carry.)

It’s a net nerf overall – until you get into champion specifics. Rammus / Malphite in particular can hit much higher levels of Armor much earlier – and so their own synergies with the item increase, for example.

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Context on Riots statement for not working on a sandbox mode

Pwyff Final PortraitThis is a hard stance to take, but we do agree with what you’re saying. That’s pretty much why we opened with an agreement.

Where it gets fuzzy… on this comment chain someone mentioned (https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3fwiy0/riot_pls_league_of_legends/ctsl875) that if someone wants to improve their freethrows, they go practice freethrows – in League that means players should have an expected mode available where they can practice combos, flashing, etc. I’m not straw manning this thing but that’s always been a core concern when it comes to dictating behavior. I’ll explain:

An answer like “players will see sandbox mode as an expectation rather than a ‘fun tool’ sounds very ‘we know better'” but it’s a pretty significant concern when you look at other games (ie: fighting games) where, if a player wants to get involved, they need to hop into dozens of hours of training mode first.

So in a game that’s oriented around players playing to improve, imagine a world where you miss one flash over a wall and your whole team tells you to quit and hop into sandbox mode? Once again, I don’t think it’s an ironclad stance that will convince the world – I do think it’s got merit. I’d imagine everyone’s had games already where someone’s told them to quit playing ranked and to go play normals. If an additional layer of sandbox got added underneath, that’s what we’re talking about.


I think a different thread died, but I wanted to link out a more cohesive perspective on this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3fwuvo/riotpwyff_sandbox_mode_will_not_be_implemented/ctsqxen

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WHY SANDBOX MODE ISNT COMING TO LEAGUE

Pwyff’s comments are in response to Riot’s recently-posted announcement, which you can read HERE.

 

So youre not adding sandbox mode because of toxic players

Pwyff Final PortraitI’m going to push back on the concept of it being player toxicity, sorry if it got represented like that. I’ll walk through it again…

First, banksy has a comment here I want to hop off of (https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3fwiy0/riot_pls_league_of_legends/ctsq90u) and work from.

I think the concept of sandbox mode has a billion different meanings (free-form practice, custom game modes, etc), so just clear that we’re talking about a lot of things. The one that resonates the most is the concept of a free-form training mode for practicing abilities and techniques in isolation without the pressure of a game. That’s what we’re going to use as a shared definition!

When we say we have a lot of debate, we mean it. Even in discussions today, we have lead designers saying there are aspects of sandbox mode that we could or should explore. I’ve talked a lot about the risks in various threads, but I want to emphasize it’s not so much player toxicity as it is broad expectations. If the skill floor for fundamentals requires extensive time spent in sandbox mode, that’s kind of scary. But for many (including designers), this is an acceptable risk for the potential gains – like pros being able to practice or players who want to get better having that option. It’s choice vs. no choice, as many of you have said. I wanted to accurately represent both sides and acknowledge them.

The stance sounds fluffyish because it was born of necessity to put the conversation to rest. As banksy puts it, there are a lot of good reasons to explore training-sandbox mode and we’re having conversations even from these comments and replies. But in terms of prioritization, it’s still below our current ones. We are talking and we hear you – to do sandbox mode right will probably require a lot of investment.

Probably a lesson for the future then. For a nuanced topic like sandbox mode, that seems more like a discussion than something on a dev blog. It’s clear we sound super authoritative and hard-headed about this, so we’ll adjust. I do think it’s a conversation you can bring up as a “we still want this!” but we also want to be clear it’s not happening soon. In other words, an idea can be good but it also can not be a priority. There is DEFINITELY a better way to reach that conclusion because this one’s pretty, uh, painful.

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Pwyff Final PortraitI wouldn’t actually say it’s toxicity of the community as it is broad behavioral patterns. The thing about massive communities is how prone they are to group-think. I’ve said this before and this sounds super ‘we know better’ but it’s the same thing with community management. What a community ‘picks up’ as cultural norms or expectations sticks with them for a long time. I don’t want to analyze how these things get picked up in the first place, but if you look at something like the boards where there’s a lot of very heated debate over every little change, you can see that’s the ‘expectation’ of the environment. You can only really change that by iterative steps along the way (ie: “Let’s have a constructive conversation”).

Once again, this won’t be an answer that says “you are all convinced” – it’s an answer that shows there are a lot of underlying concerns and why it’s tough to judge which way that coin will fall.

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Pwyff Final PortraitI don’t think these responses are going to make things better or convince people who might have otherwise disagreed. I’m just making the stances clear on both sides, even if they are very, uh, polarizing.

Once again, I just don’t think this is going to be a “let’s convince everyone” because I get where your values are coming from and I’m just hoping people might see where ours come from.

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Players improve via educational mediums not from spamming solo queue

Pwyff Final PortraitI agree with you that educational mediums are huge for learning League – maybe we can get better at showcasing those (I believe in NA we’re highlighting them in the client).

The argument that “it would have happened already” with CS drills is something you do see even if it’s not on a broad scale. Where I’d say it’s ‘already happened’ is if you hop into a ranked game, perform badly, and hear someone tell you “go back to casuals” (or just uninstall). That does occur and that should be the last stop (or vs. AI bots) of where people go to when it comes to improving.

I realize I’m just repeating myself from other parts of the thread and it’s really clear the disconnect comes from a very odd “that is a risk” stance and y’all saying “it won’t happen that way.” I won’t say agree to disagree but…

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FIGHTER UPDATES

 

Darius Final Portrait

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  • Attack Range increased from 125 to 175
  • Attack Damage-per-level increased from 3.5 to 5
  • Health per level increased from 93 to 100
  • Armor per level increased from 3.5 to 4
  • Base Attack Speed reduced from 0.679 to 0.625
  • Attack Speed-per-level decreased from 4% to 1%

 

Buff BoxHemorrhage Final Icon

Hemorrhage [ Passive ]

  • [New] Bloodrage: Darius now enters Bloodrage for 5 seconds whenever an enemy champion reaches max Hemorrhage or dies to Noxian Guillotine. During Bloodrage, Darius gains 40-200 bonus Attack Damage and applies max Hemorrhage to enemies hit.
  • Bleed now deals physical damage instead of magic
  • Base bleed damage per stack decreased from 12-36 to 10-27
  • Darius no longer gains bonus Movement Speed if enemy champions are bleeding

 

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Change BoxDecimate Final IconDecimate [ Q ]

  • Now has a 0.75 second delay before swinging
  • Darius heals for 10% of his missing Health for each enemy champion hit by the blade, capped at 30%
  • Damage on the outer circle has been changed from 105/157.5/210/262.5/315 [+1.05 Bonus AD] to 20/40/60/80/100 [+1/1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4 Total AD]
  • Damage in the inner circle has been decreased from 66% of the outer circle’s damage to 50%, or 10/20/30/40/50 [+0.5/0.55/0.6/0.65/0.7 Total AD]
  • Enemies hit by the handle (inner circle) no longer receive a stack of Hemorrhage

 

Change BoxCrippling Strike Final IconCrippling Strike [ W ]

  • Damage changed from 120/140/160/180/200% of Total AD to 140% of Total AD at all ranks
  • Slow strength increased from 20/25/30/35/40% to 40/50/60/70/80%
  • Slow duration decreased from 2 seconds to 1
  • Crippling Strike no longer lowers the Attack Speed of enemies
  • Cooldown changed from 8 seconds at all ranks to 9/8/7/6/5
  • No longer reduces the base cooldown of the spell per Hemorrhage stack
  • Mana cost decreased from 30/35/40/45/50 to 30

 

Buff BoxApprehend Final IconApprehend [ E ]

  • Fixed a bug where enemies would be pulled in if they escaped the area during the cast time
  • Cast time decreased from 0.35 seconds to 0.25
  • Now briefly slows targets after being pulled in

 

Change BoxNoxian Guilotine Final IconNoxian Guillotine [ R ]

  • Base minimum damage decreased from 160/250/340 to 100/200/300
  • No longer refunds Mana on re-casts; instead, all re-casts cost no Mana
  • At rank 3, Noxian Guillotine has no Mana cost
  • Upon executing an enemy champion, all nearby minions and monsters become terrified for a few seconds

 

 

Garen Final Portrait

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  • Recommended items updated
  • Health-per-level decreased from 96 to 84.25
  • AD-per-level increased from 3.5 to 4.5
  • Armor-per-level increased from 2.7 to 3
  • Auto Attack range increased from 125 to 175

 

Nerf BoxPerseverance Final IconPerseverance [ Passive ]

  • At level 16, the Heal regen has been decreased from 2% to 1.6%



Nerf BoxDecisive Strike Final IconDecisive Strike [ Q ]

  • Silence duration decreased from 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 seconds to 1.5 at all ranks

 

 

Nerf BoxCourage Final IconCourage [ W ]

  • No longer grants 20% bonus Armor and Magic Resist
  • New passive: Killing units permanently grants 0.2 Armor and Magic Resist (1 for champions, large monsters, and epic monsters), up to a maximum of 10/15/20/25/30
  • Active no longer decreases the duration of incoming CC by 30%

 

Change BoxJudgement Final IconJudgment [ E ]

  • Damage per tick changed from 10/22.5/35/47.5/60 [+0.35/0.4/0.45/0.5/0.55 Total AD] to 12/16/20/24/28 [+0.47/0.49/0.51/0.53/0.55 Total AD]
  • Base damage ticks per cast decreased from 6 to 5
  • Cooldown decreased from 13/12/11/10/9 seconds to 9 at all ranks
  • New passive: Judgement’s spin speed permanently increases at levels 1/4/7/10/13/16, resulting in a total of 5/6/7/8/9/10 maximum ticks of damage per cast
  • If Garen cancels Judgement prematurely, he’s refunded cooldown equal to the remaining duration of the spin
  • Garen no longer moves 20% slower while moving through minions
  • Garen now moves 20% slower while moving toward champions he’s hitting with Judgment
  • Judgment no longer benefits from Critical Strike Chance or Critical Strike Damage

 

Buff BoxDemacian Justice Final IconDemacian Justice [ R ]

  • New Passive: The enemy champion with the most recent kills is marked as Villain. Judgment ticks and basic attacks on the Villain deal an additional 1% of its max Health as true damage
  • Demacian Justice now deals true damage to the Villain instead of magic damage

 
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Mordekaiser Final Portrait

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  • Recommended Items updated
  • Base Movement Speed decreased from 340 to 330
  • Base Health decreased from 555 to 525
  • Health-per-level increased from 73 to 80
  • AD-per-level increased from 3.5 to 5
  • Attack Speed-per-level increased from 2.6% to 3%
  • Health-per-5 increased from 3.3 [+0.3 per level] to 4 [+0.55 per level]
  • Attack animation improved, but no longer scales as well with Attack Speed
  • Auto attack range increased from 125 to 200
  • Armor-per-level increased from 2.7 to 3

 

Change BoxIron Man Final IconIron Man [ Passive ]

  • Shield decay-per-second changed from 3% of the shield’s max value to 2% of base Health
  • The shield will now stop decaying when it reaches 25%
  • Maximum shield value is now equal to 25% of Morde’s maximum Health (no longer scales with level)
  • Shield generation decreased from 35% of damage dealt to 25%

 

Buff BoxMace of Spades Final IconMace of Spades [ Q ]

  • Now buffs Mordekaisers next 3 attacks. The first one deals 3/6/9/12/15 [+0.25 Total AD] [+0.2 AP]  bonus magic damage. Each next strike deals 2/2.25/2.5/2.75/3 times the damage of the previous one. Maximum damage of the third strike is 27/54/81/108/135 [+2.25 Total AD] [+1.8 AP]
  • Health cost decreased from 20/25/30/35/40 to 20/23/26/29/32
  • Cooldown increased from 8/7/6/5/4 seconds to 10/8.5/7/6.5/5

 

Change BoxCreeping Death Final IconCreeping Death [ W ]

  • New Passive: Mordekaiser receives full experience from any lane minion he kills, regardless of lane partners;
  • New Active – Harvesters of Sorrow: Mordekaiser and target ally champion gain 75 Movement Speed while moving toward one another;
  • When close to one another, both deal 140/180/220/260/280 [+0.6 AP] magic damage to nearby enemies over 4 seconds. Mordekaiser can reactive the ability to instantly steal half the spell’s DoT, or 50/70/90/110/130 [+0.3 AP]. This value is reduced to 33% against minions, with a maximum of three targets;
  • Cooldown decreased from 20/18/16/14/12 seconds to 12/11/10/9/8;
  • Health cost removed.

 

Change BoxSiphon of Destruction Final Icon Siphon of Destruction [ E ]

  • Base damage decreased from 70/115/160/205/250 to 35/65/95/125/155
  • Now additionally scales with 0.6 of Total AD
  • Cooldown decreased from 6 seconds at all ranks to 6/5.75/5.5/5.25/5
  • If the spell hits an enemy Champion, Morde instantly fills 15% of his maximum shield

 

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Buff BoxChildren of the Grave Final IconChildren of the Grave [ R ]

  • Damage increased from 12/14.5/17 [+ 0.02 AP] % to 20/25/30 [+ 0.04 AP] % of target’s maximum health (again, half the damage is dealt, instant, half over a 10-second period)
  • New Passive – Dragon Force: Dealing damage to the Dragon curses it for 10 seconds. If Mordekaiser’s team kills a cursed target, Mordekaiser gets a ghost of that target that has 30% the
  • Ghost duration increased from 45 seconds at all ranks to 45/60/75
  • Additionally, Mordekaiser gains 30% of his ghost’s AP and 25% of its bonus Health
  • The ghost is granted 10/25/50 bonus AD and bonus Health equal to 15% of Mordekaiser’s maximum Health

 

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Skarner Final Portrait

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  • Recommended Items updated
  • Base Movement speed decreased from 345 to 330
  • Base Health-per-level decreased from 96 to 84.25
  • AD-per-level increased from 4.2 to 4.5

 

New Item BoxCrystal Spires Final IconCrystal Spires [ New Passive ]

  • Skarner’s presence causes crystals to spawn in set locations around the map. Crystals can be captured by either team by standing on top of them. Capturing prevents them from being captured by the opposing team for 10 seconds.
  • While near active crystals, Skarner gains 150 Movement Speed, 35% [+5% per level] Attack Speed and restores 3% of his maximum Mana per second.

 

Crystal capture specifics:

  • Crystals remain captured permanently for the capturing team until recaptured by the opposing team
  • Capturing a crystal grants 15g to players that helped capture it
  • Crystals are locked out of being recaptured for 10 seconds after being captured
  • While on the 10 second lockout, crystals provide vision in a medium area around them (and provide no other vision the rest of the time)
  • If a member of the team owning the crystal is standing on the crystal, it cannot be captured

 

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Change BoxCrystal Slash Final Icon Crystal Slash [ Q ]

  • Uncharged damage changed from 20/30/40/50/60 [+0.4 Bonus AD] to 0.32/0.34/0.36/0.38/0.40 Total AD
  • Charged damage changed from 20/30/40/50/60 [+0.2 AP] to 0.32/0.34/0.36/0.38/0.40 Total AD
  • Cooldown decreased from 3.5 seconds at all ranks to 3.5/3.25/3/2.75/2.5
  • Duration of charge buff decreased from 5 seconds to 4
  • Against non-champions, basic attacks now decrease Skarner’s cooldowns by 0.25 seconds, decreased from 0.5
  • Mana cost decreased from 16/17/18/19/20 to 10/11/12/13/14
  • Crystal Slash no longer stacks bonus Movement Speed and Attack Speed

 

Change BoxCrystalline Exoskeleton Final IconCrystalline Exoskeleton [ W ]

  • Shield value changed from 80/135/190/245/300 [+0.8 AP] to 12/13/14/15/16% of Max HP [+0.8 AP]

 

 

Buff BoxFracture Final IconFracture [ E ]

  • Missile speed now decreases for each champion hit
  • Enemies hit by Fracture are afflicted with Crystal Venom for 5 seconds, causing Skarner’s next basic attack against them to deal 25/50/75/100/125 additional physical damage and stun them for 1 second.
  • Slow duration decreased from 2.5 seconds to 2

 

Change BoxImpale Final IconImpale [ R ]

  • Base magic damage decreased from 100/150/200 to 20/60/100
  • Now deals additional physical damage both at the start of the channel and at the end, equal to 100% of Skarner’s Total AD
  • Mana cost decreased from 100/125/150 to 100 at all ranks
  • Cooldown decreased from 110/100/90 seconds to 120/100/80
  • No longer deals bonus damage to targets with Crystal Venom

 

 

Champion Changes

 

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Buff BoxRiftwalk Final IconRiftwalk [ R ]

  • First jump’s damage additionally scales with 0.2 AP; each subsequent Riftwalk scales with 0.1 AP

 

 

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Buff BoxFlurry Final IconFlurry [ Passive ]

  • Lee Sin now gains 20 energy back on the first basic attack and 10 on the second, changed from 15 energy on both attacks

 

Buff BoxDragons Rage Final IconDragon’s Rage [ R ]

  • If the target of the kick hits an enemy Champion, it deals additional physical damage equal to 15/18/21% of its bonus Health (damage stacks with more targets hit)

 

 

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Buff BoxFrozen Tomb Final IconFrozen Tomb [ R ]

  • When self-cast, Frozen Tomb heals Lissandra for 100/150/200 [+0.3 AP]; this value is increased by 1% for each 1% of Health missing

 

 

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Buff BoxArdent Blaze Final IconArdent Blaze [ W ]

  • Bonus Movement Speed increased from 40/45/50/55/60 to 60/65/70/75/80
  • Duration of MS buff decreased from 2 seconds to 1
  • Lucian can now gain the MS buff if any ally hits a target marked by Ardent Blaze
  • Mana cost decreased from 60 at all ranks to 50

 

 

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Buff BoxSiphoning Strike Final IconSiphoning Strike [ Q ]

  • While the Siphoning Strike buff is active, Nasus’s basic attack range is increased from 125 to 150

 

 

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Buff BoxDeath Mark Final IconDeath Mark [ R ]

  • Delay on recasting Death Mark has been decreased from 1 second to 0.5

 

 

NEW ITEMS

 

Riot Axes New PortraitHi folks,

In support of the Juggernaut champion changes, we’re releasing a pair of new items – Sterak’s Gage and Titanic Hydra. This thread is a good place for feedback.

 

 


New Item BoxSterak Gage Final Icon Sterak’s Gage

Recipe: Giant’s Belt [1000 Gold] + Long Sword [360 Gold] + 1190 Gold combine cost = 2550 Gold total

Grants 500 Health and AD equal to 25% of the user’s Base AD

UNIQUE Passive: Upon taking at least 400 to 1800 damage (based on level) within 5 seconds, gain Primal Rage for 8 seconds.

Primal Rage: Grow in size and strength, gaining increased size, +25% additional Base Attack Damage, and a rapidly decaying shield for 30% of your maximum Health.

 

Storak Gage Ingame

 


Some quick context: It turns out there’s a ton of ambient AOE damage on the front lines of a teamfight – a lot of ults hit for 500+ and they all tend to come down at once. Sterak’s Gage should help Juggernauts avoid dying by accident in an average teamfight while leaving them able to be killed by focus fire or truly dedicated wombo.


 

New Item BoxTitanic Hydra Final IconTitanic Hydra (Melee Only)

Recipe: Tiamat [1900 Gold] + Ruby Crystal [400 Gold] + 1000 Gold combine cost = 3300 Gold total

Grants 250 Health, 50 AD and 100% Base Health Regen

UNIQUE Passive: Basic attacks deal 20 plus 1% of your maximum health as bonus physical damage on hit.

UNIQUE Passive – Cleave: Basic attacks deal 40 plus 2.5% of your maximum health as physical damage in a cone on hit (the target does not take this damage).

UNIQUE Active – Crescent: Your next basic attack deals physical damage equal to 20 plus 10% of your maximum health in a larger cone on hit (20 second cooldown, Cleave doesn’t apply to this attack).

 

Titanic Hydra Ingame

 


Quick context: The Black Cleaver covers spell-based tanky melee champs pretty well, and Trinity Force covers its set of champions amazingly. Titanic Hydra should cover more basic attack-focused Juggernauts with their own option while providing a decent stretch goal for other Juggernauts having a great game to shoot for.


Quick note – VFX, audio, and icons are still work in progress.

This thread is a great place to leave feedback if you get a chance to test these items.

Thanks!

~Riot Axes

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Item Changes

 

Xypherous Final PortraitHey guys,

Defensive items right now are in a generally okay place – It’s not great but it’s functional.

There are some very high powered items (especially in Armor) but there are also some weaker items (especially in Magic Resistance) that are viable so on the whole – defensive builds as a whole generally reach the amount of power / cost that’s probably okay.

However, we’ll be introducing several new defensive items in the 5.16 patch and the existence of these high powered items create a world where any new item has to be almost equally high powered to compete.

This necessitates a rebalancing of power across the board such that it can be acceptable of new items being introduced.

I suspect that this changelist isn’t going to be particularly exciting – especially compared to AP – but these changes were made to provide an easier environment to balance introducing new defensive items that we’ll be introducing in the same patch.

This does have some side effects on low income characters (Support / Support Tanks / Pure Tanks) – and so we’ll likely be looking at base statistic adjustments on the ones that are most affected if we feel like they’re in a terrible spot.

TL;DR – Armor items are generally more expensive or grant less armor. Health items readjusted. Magic Resistance is generally cheaper and easier to build. Will be looking at specific support or low-income champions that might be hurt from an Armor perspective.

 

MAGIC RESISTANCE

 

Buff BoxNull Magic Mantle Final IconNull-Magic Mantle

  • Cost decreased from 500 to 450

 

Buff BoxNegatron Cloak Final IconNegatron Cloak

  • Cost decreased from 850 Gold to 800

 

Note: Rescaled the cost of MR to be roughly 90% of Armor.

Due to the change in price of Null-Magic Mantle, Wit’s End has had its cost decreased:

 

Buff BoxWits End Final IconWit’s End

  • Total cost decreased from 2600 to 2550

 

Change BoxAegis Final IconAegis of the Legion

  • Total cost decreased from 1900 Gold to 1600
  • Recipe Change: Null Magic Mantle [500 Gold] + Crystalline Bracer [600 Gold]
  • Now grants 100% Base HP regen
  • Aura no longer grants HP regen and the bonus MR to allies has been decreased from 20 to 15
  • Aura Regen: No longer grants HP Regen as an Aura.

 

Notes: Recipe change was a fairly requested change – however, given the power/size of the item – the recipe change alone would probably favor bruiser / solo tanks than actual support characters.

With this general rebalance – shrinking the item’s power and effect also lets us streamline the item path as it’ll be less suited for solo bruiser/tanks and more appropriate to support tanks / pure support who have less inventory slots.

 

Change BoxLocket of Solari Final IconLocket of the Iron Solari

  • Total cost decreased from 2800 Gold to 2750
  • Shield strength increased from 50-230 to 75-345
  • Shield duration decreased from 5 seconds to 2

 

Note: Similar to the AP item work – taking the time to sharpen the identity and power of several of these items. While a 5 second low power shield is fairly decent at general defense – it’s not quite enough shield to save someone and somewhat poor at fighting back against a high powered burst spell.

Compressing the power and duration of the shield is aimed at pushing the power away from general ambient damage absorption to a more reactive ‘block’ approach.

 

Buff BoxBanner of Command Final IconBanner of Command

  • Total cost decreased from 3000 Gold to 2750

 

 

Buff BoxSpectres Cowl Final IconSpectre’s Cowl

  • Magic Resistance increased from 35 to 40

 

 

Buff BoxSpirit Visage Final IconSpirit Visage

  • Total cost decreased from 2750 Gold to 2700
  • Magic Resistance increased from 55 to 60
  • Bonus Base Health regeneration increased from 100% to 150%

 

Buff BoxBanshees Veil Final IconBanshee’s Veil

  • Total cost decreased from 2750 Gold to 2700
  • Recipe Change: Ruby Crystal [400 Gold] swapped for Crystalline Bracer [600 Gold]
  • Magic Resistance increased from 55 to 60

 

Notes: Nothing to see here. Just general cost / power tuning – as well as some light recipe adjustments. Crystalline Bracer now forks at Veil and Aegis if you’re building MR -or- between RG and Warmog’s if you’re looking for Health.

 

ARMOR RESISTANCE

 

Change BoxRaptors Cloak Final IconRaptor’s Cloak

  • Total cost increased from 1000 Gold to 1100
  • Bonus Base Health regeneration increased from 100% to 150%
  • Point Runner: Movement speed maximum reduced to 20% (from 30%). However, Movement Speed now decays over 2 seconds instead of instantly dropping off when you leave the proximity of a tower.

 

Notes: In general, Raptor’s Cloak was pretty good at one or two specific scenarios (dancing) – however, the usability tuning of it frequently meant it was pretty inconsistent in a lot of other things. While this isn’t the core problem with the item – doing some light tuning passes here to improve some of the usability around this item.

 

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  • Total cost decreased from 2800 Gold to 2750
  • Point Runner: See Raptor Cloak.
  • Void Spawn Health Decay: Is now a % of their current health rather than maximum, minimum of one. This effectively doubles their health (and roaming range!) but greatly reduces their effective health at all points.
  • Void Spawn Gold Counter: Now shows you how much gold you earned from Voidlings.
  • Empowered Void Spawn: Empowered Voidlings now scale off 15% of your maximum Health rather than your resistances.

 

Notes: Some cleanup and adjustments on ZZ’Rot Portal – mostly for usability. While the range is ‘doubled’ – the health of the voidlings is lower at any given point – so poor placements of ZZ’Rot will still get you voidlings when you properly support them but at generally far lower health pools.

 

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  • Point Runner: See ZZ’Rot Portal

 

 

ARMOR ITEMS

 

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  • Total Cost decreased from 950 Gold to 900

 

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  • Total Cost increased from 1050 Gold to 1100

 

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  • Price increased from 2450 Gold to 2600
  • Armor decreased from 100 to 90

 

Notes: So Frozen Heart is one of several main defensive item outliers in terms of just raw power and efficiency – so we’re going to tone that down by quite a bit as, compared to other items – the effective power to cost ratio was incredibly high.

Due to the price reduction of Glacial Shroud, Zeke’s Harbinger and Icebourn Gauntlet are now also cheaper:

 

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  • Total cost decreased from 2900 to 2850

 

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  • Total cost decreased from 2300 to 2250

 

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  • Price increased from 2100 Gold to 2300
  • UNIQUE Passive now reflects 15% of damage + 25% of the user’s bonus Armor, changed from 30% of damage

 

Note: Thornmail was another major outlier in terms of power effectiveness – but – it is only strong in the presence of high health pools. Because Thornmail is such an effective standalone Armor item and additional Armor doesn’t really make Thornmail much stronger – Thornmail is strongest when you can stack Health (as is the case for most pure resistance items.)

While this case will always be naturally powerful – putting a hook onto Thornmail such that purchasing additional Armor items unlocks a different sort of power as well as having some more soft synergies with other champions (Leona, Rammus, etc.)

If you’re under the effects of a negative % decrease in Armor – Thornmail will ignore it for the purpose of calculating bonus damage. However, flat decreases and shreds that cancel our your innate % increases (For example, Malphite vs. Garen) – will impact the damage of Thornmail.

 

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  • Total Cost decreased from 2850 Gold to 2700
  • Health decreased from 500 to 400
  • Armor decreased from 70 to 60
  • Cold Steel Passive: Unchanged
  • Crit Damage Reduction: Now reduces critical strike damage taken by 10%.
  • Slow Active: Duration no longer scales off Armor and Magic Resistance, instead it will always slow for a flat four seconds.

 

Notes: Randuin’s Omen is probably one of the more ubiquitous items in the game in terms of general purpose strength. Since we’re adding several items that try to do slightly different things – sharpening Randuin’s Omen to be a more dedicated ‘Oh god, crits are murdering me’ item seemed appropriate. However, this is overall intended to be a moderate nerf to the item.

 

HEALTH

 

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  • Now grants 200% Base Health Regen [zero on live]
  • Passive Changed: Grants Warmog’s Heart if you have above 3000 life. Warmog’s Heart restores 3% of your maximum life per second when you haven’t taken damage in 8 seconds.

 

Notes: Sharpening items. MORE SHARP. MORE FOCUS.

I think we’ve been generally happy with Warmog’s Armor as an anti-siege option for the mid-late game – so we’re kind of tripling down on the concept at this point. In the late game – recalling and regenerating has roughly similar effects in a winning case – and therefore we’ve decided to push Warmog’s into a space where it is powerful enough to replace the act of Recalling for healing in the late game for character’s that choose to invest heavily into a health route.

 

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  • Total Cost decreased from 2500 Gold to 2400
  • Catalyst Passive: Loses Catalyst Passive on Upgrade.

 

Notes: Catalyst has two clear upgrades – a rush item (Rod of ze Ages) or Righteous Glory (Team Fight).

One of the reasons we’ve tuned down RG over time is that whenever its strong enough to be rushed as first item, we tend to dislike how early skirmishes get decided. Trying some minor experimental stuff to discourage RG as first-pick up by giving it a clear tradeoff from its counterpart – while also making it slightly easier to build later in the game.

 

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  • Base Health increased from 300 to 400
  • Health multiplier decreased from 25% to 15%

 

Notes: This is a minor buff to Cinderhulk’s average case and a nerf to Cinderhulk’s best case late game. While Cinderhulk isn’t exactly a dominant pickup at the moment – it sits in this odd spot of having most of its power devoted to a late game which already has its fair share of powerful effects (Devourer). This change shifts it to be slightly more mid-game focused than its counterparts and should let us better control how much Health a character will have due to the reduced multipliers.

TL;DR – Armor is nerfed and more expensive. MR is generally cheaper and easier to build. Health adjusted. Total cost should be similar – but most likely more expensive. Will be looking at some classes for base statistics adjustments to compensate for potential loss in defensive armor.

 


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The recently-announced gameplay updates for Darius, Skarner, Mordekaiser & Garen have now been revealed:

 

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We wanted to write some thoughts up to prepare you for some pretty hefty changes we’ll be experimenting with over the next few patches. In short, here are our goals:

  • Every game of League should feel meaningfully different based on the champions in it
  • Each champion in League should feel distinct from one another

We’re primarily going to talk about the second goal here: getting all champions in League to feel different from each other through unique gameplay in addition to their themes and art.

Every game of League should feel meaningfully different based on the champions in it

Now, some champs already bring their unique brand of play to League. Take Blitzcrank into a game and you’ll heavily affect the way both teams play. Instead of looking for solid initiation, your team will more likely wait for you to pull off a successful pick, while the enemy team will position their frontline in the hope of getting grabbed. And Rocket Grab is just one ability on one champion!

Plenty of other champs have similar impact, from Gnar with his rage meter, to Yasuo with his Wind Wall. But while we succeeded with some, we frankly didn’t with others (such as Darius and Garen) and, when two champs play the same way, you just end up picking the one that does the same things better. The result is the same folks played in every game (unless that power balance shifts), and each game of League feeling similar. That’s one of the main things we wanted to begin solving with this update.

Previously when balancing champs, we’ve occasionally taken the approach of nerfing their strengths so we could buff their weaknesses. We’re not doing that here. Instead, we’re often entirely refocusing each champion’s power so that their highs and lows are both deeper and more differentiated from others in the same role.

Rather than just diving in headfirst and tackling all the champions, our plan is to break them down into groups – tackling champions who share roughly the same strategic or tactical niche as others at the same time. By hitting a handful of champs at a time, we can address a few underserved groups, like the first set that we’ve affectionately referred to as juggernauts.

Caveat: A lot of the following changes may sound like net buffs–and they generally are–but often times we didn’t want to only add power, so we’ve shifted a lot of strength around to more focus these tanky melee carries on offering more unique identities with conditional power built on their range. You’ll find more information in the patch notes, but we wanted to highlight our intentions here even if we aren’t going through the full changelist.

 

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Nasus. Darius. Garen. Skarner. When you think brute force, these champions should come to mind: powerful, durable, immobile and melee. They’re League’s hulking titans who, come late game, turn into super tanky carries who’ll pretty much destroy anyone foolish enough to get in their way. The prototypical juggernaut is Nasus, the classic one dog late game wrecking machine. The archetypal raid boss can only do his thing when he’s in melee range, and his lack of gap closer means he often has to rely on allied speed boosts like Sivir’s On The Hunt or well-aimed crowd control like a Morgana binding to get close, but once he does, he unleashes the power of his trademark Siphoning Strike.

When you think brute force, these champions should come to mind: powerful, durable, immobile and melee.


This balance of power and peelability helps keep tanky melee carries in a good state and leads to distinct playstyles that belong to each champion. What we did with this update was we took a look at some of the juggernauts that occupied the same ‘tactical space’ as Nasus (we think there are a few more than these, but settled on four for our first set) and added a little more uniqueness where we could.

 

 

 

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Death by my hand

We’ve always thought of Darius as one of League’s strongest cleanup fighters, the pentakill machine who’d outlast his enemies’ attacks before apprehending his wounded enemies and getting his chop on. The problem was, while that fantasy is great, Darius almost never got to do any of it. Either you’d build damage on him and die before it was cleanup time, or build tanky and lack the damage to properly get your dunk on.

With this update, we’re tweaking Hemorrhage and giving the big guy’s passive a new tool: Bloodrage:

 

HEMORRHAGE PASSIVE

Hemorrhage Final IconDarius cuts enemies he attacks, causing them to bleed. Hemorrhage can stack up to five times.

[New] Bloodrage: Whenever Darius executes an enemy with Noxian Guillotine or fully stacks Hemorrhage on a target, he gains Bloodrage for a few seconds. While under the effects of Bloodrage, Darius deals greatly increased physical damage and applies max Hemorrhage stacks to all enemies he hits.

 

 

The idea here is to give Darius the means to be Darius. The damage amp upon fully stacking Bloodrage is huge, but he still has to work to get it. Opponents will have to be much more cautious about letting the Hand of Noxus get his passive stacks going – preventing him from gaining stacks means he won’t go into Bloodrage which, in turn, means he’ll have a much harder time chaining his executions together. But when he does… well… there will be pentakills.

 

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Garen’s an interesting champion to work on. He’s League’s preeminent “spin to win” champion, but doesn’t really bring enough uniqueness to the games he’s in. What’s more, when late game comes around, the Might of Demacia turns into the Meek of Demacia and falls off so hard he doesn’t do much other than occasionally tell people – very loudly – where he’s from. We wanted to balance Garen out a little, so we tinkered with his power curve to make him weaker early but stronger come late game, and then added a fancy new passive to the big man’s ult.

 

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Demacian Justice Final Icon[NEW] Passive: Garen identifies the enemy champion with the most recent kills as the enemy team’s Villain. Judgment ticks and basic attacks on the Villain deal an additional 1% of their max Health as true damage.

Active: Garen calls upon the might of Demacia to deal a finishing blow to a targeted enemy. The more health they’re missing, the more damage Demacian Justice will deal. [NEW] Demacian Justice deals true damage to the enemy team’s Villain.

 

 

Now Garen has an active and unique role in every game: to destroy any foe, regardless of how tanky they are, so long as they’ve recently killed one of his friends (champions on his team). This isn’t just cool in design terms, it’s also super fitting to his character’s fantasy: now Garen’s a protector of the weak both in and out of game, and has a kit that directly opposes Darius’. This isn’t a static rivalry either – Villainy will adapt as the game progresses, changing Garen’s target as his enemies rise to – and fall from – power.

 

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Fear my sting

Skarner has one of the coolest ultimates in the game and we think that’s A Good Thing, but we also wanted to give him a few more toys to be excited about when kidnapping isn’t on the docket. We wanted Skarner to have something truly unique to him – here’s where we ended up:

 

 

Whenever Skarner is in a game, six crystal spires appear on the Rift. They’re located by red buff, blue buff, Baron, and Dragon.These crystal spires are capturable, just like the altars on Twisted Treeline. When someone on the lonely scorpion’s team captures a spire, it creates a zone that gives Skarner (only Skarner!) pretty significant boosts to his movement and attack speed. The enemy team can capture them too and, when they do, they gain gold, a short burst of vision, and temporarily lock Skarner out from his super meaningful buffs. That’s the key – with these changes, Skarner becomes a neutral objective control king, and super useful for teams looking to overcome their enemies with buff and map control.

 

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Misery loves company

Last but certainly not least, we took a look at ol’ Morde. Over the years, he’s been a consistently difficult champion to balance thanks to his pretty unique mechanics. League’s very own man of steel is a shielded and manaless AP burst mage who’s super slow, lacks crowd control… and is often played in a solo lane. So, rather than committing to balancing him in a patchwork fashion for the next few years, we decided to try something a little crazy. Here goes…

We’re trying Mordekaiser out as a duo lane juggernaut, intended to step up in lieu of a regular marksmen pick.

Yep.

Morde’s rework has some pretty unique aspects. For starters, Creeping Death now only deals damage if Morde and his targeted ally stay near each other, a change intended to help entice Morde into duo lanes the way we mentioned. Secondly, even if he’s playing in lane with a support, he’ll earn full experience from any minion he’s able to last hit (support will get their usual half share of xp). This means that Mordekaiser, unless he dies horribly beforehand, will always hit level six way before his lane opponents, and will always have a pretty handy advantage when it comes to bot lane battles and early game dragon contests.

Speaking of dragon, check this out:

 

 

Whenever he deals damage specifically to the dragon, Mordekaiser curses it – if his team’s then able to kill it, Morde summons a specter of dragon that follows him around and fights for him. If you’ve ever thought about watching dragon and Baron duke it out… well… now you can.

Obviously these are some pretty significant updates that are, as ever, subject to change, but hopefully we’ve shown you some unique and different angles for the juggernauts we’re looking at and how we’re looking to diversify champs in similar spots. We’ve plans for other tanky melee carries (specifically Shyvana and Olaf), and broader plans beyond that for the entire champion roster. Again, our goal is that every champion in League has specific reasons to be picked, or brings a unique and awesome thing to each game.

There’ll be more info in upcoming patch notes, but in the meantime, let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

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Riot’s current Champion Update schedule features Darius, Garen, Skarner and Mordekaiser. Below is a discussion on what each of these smaller-scale gameplay updates will focus on:

 

 

Did these updates pop up in the rework schedule because theyre smallscale

Meddler Final PortraitYup, Poppy’s a full relaunch (Sion level of changes in terms of gameplay, visuals, audio etc). The four champs added to the update list today by contrast are all smaller projects with a gameplay focus.

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When will the reworks for Darius Garen Skarner be up on the PBE

Meddler Final PortraitOur aim is to release the Garen, Darius, Skarner and Morde reworks in the same patch, along with some changes to fighter and defensive itemization. As usual that’s not 100% guaranteed, it’s certainly what we’re trying for though.

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Meddler Final PortraitOdds are pretty high this stuff will be in 5.16.

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What do you mean by fighter and defensive itemization

Meddler Final PortraitA new item or two, plus some small (mainly) adjustments to defensive items (in general Armor items are getting slight nerfs, MR items slight buffs).

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Why are so many reworks being released at the same time

Meddler Final PortraitDeliberate choice to pair these reworks with the item changes.

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Whats the scope of Mordes rework Will he get a Visual Update too

Meddler Final PortraitMorde’s a moderate sized update (bigger than Garen, Skarner or Darius). His skills are still pretty similar, but all have at least some degree of adjustment, with a push in more of a bruiser direction. We’re not going to be giving him CC or mobility though, we feel lack of those, in exchange for some otherwise pretty inappropriate stuff (that ult especially), is a key part of Morde’s identity.

We’re with you that Morde could do with a visual update. There are other characters we feel need the work more though on the art side, so he’s a way down the priority list (Poppy’s the primary art intensive project on the Champion Update team right now). We’re going for a mainly gameplay update as a result, since we’ve got kit changes ready to go (with some limited visual effects changes to support them as needed).

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Do you still plan on making Mordekaiser more bruiseroriented

Meddler Final PortraitTankier, more sustained damage/close range damage, less burst combo.

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Will Darius rework be up on the PBE next week

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Will you fix Darius E to not pull enemies who dash out of range

Meddler Final PortraitWe will be changing Darius’s E so that it checks for targets to pull at end of cast, not start (so no more flash away but still get pulled).

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What will be the scope of Skarners rework

Meddler Final PortraitSomewhat bigger than Garen, though not dramatically so. One of the biggest things we want to do in his case is give him a clearer niche when his ult’s on CD.

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What aspects of Skarners kit do you plan on changing

Scruffy Final PortraitThe general way you play him will feel very similar (though with some pretty major QoL improvements in the new passive area). The changes are gonna be more focused on giving him a more unique contribution to his team/playstyle. Effectively expect that most of his current skills will remain in tact.

Next week will answer all of the questions when he’s on PBE for testing.

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Will Skarner become more unique after the update

Scruffy Final PortraitThis is actually the major goal of the upcoming changes. Giving him some totally new things to bring to his team/the game.

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Will Skarner get an updated lore and a new Champion Spotlight

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Don’t think there’s a new champ spotlight in the works right now but I know they would like to redo the one’s for reworked champs when they have the time.

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Will Skarner still be able to carry games if hes ahead

Scruffy Final PortraitYea these type of immobile bruisers (morde, skar, darius, garen) should reach pretty carry status with the amount of tankiness and damage they need to make up for their lack of mobility or CC tools.

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Tarics rework should have higher priority than Skarners update

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Goals for Garens rework

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ll be talking about Garen in detail soonish, few initial comments in the meantime though:

  • Garen’s probably the lowest scope project on that list, with the addition of a new mechanic to his kit and some noticeable power curve tuning as key elements for him. Somewhat larger gameplay changes than MF, significantly smaller than GP.
  • Changes to Garen are very much being developed with the item changes in mind.
  • Very with you on the value of distinct benefits for bringing a particular champion to a team. We’ve got something else in mind for Garen though that doesn’t overlap with other objective controllers (ult on monsters would give a very Cho/Nunu sort of feel).

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Will Garen be a reliable tank or will players be expected to build for damage

Meddler Final PortraitOur approach with the primary tags on each character is generally to reflect what a champion is trying to do in a fight, rather than how they build. Garen’s there primarily for damage for example. He does bring a little bit of CC, and he’s happy to soak up some damage where he can, but his ideal goal is to spin on someone then ult them for a kill. Tanks by contrast, even if they’ve got similar builds, tend to be much more focused on setting up the enemy team for others to kill and/or protecting their own team. Lot of disruption basically, most often through CC.

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Postrework Garen will still have his silence because it can be avoided

Meddler Final PortraitThat’s pretty accurate as to our thinking on silences (can be a good fit on champs where there are things you can do to avoid the silence, generally not appropriate on characters who have the tools to silence you with really high reliability). Garen’s keeping his silence as a result, for while it’s click to hit it’s also a melee ability and he doesn’t have a dash/jump/blink.

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Will Garen still be new player friendly

Repertoir New PortraitGaren should remain a good option for beginners after his changes (possibly better in some ways). I wouldn’t worry too much about his level of difficulty skyrocketing in his update.

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Offtopic What about Yorick Hes a fighter in need of a rework

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Why doesnt Poppys rework have priority over the other fighter updates

Meddler Final PortraitThe bulk of the work that needs to be done on Poppy at this point is art/sound/VO. These other reworks by contrast are gameplay updates with the minimal amount of other work needed to support kit changes. Delaying these won’t help Poppy get out any sooner as a result, these are updates that are being done in parallel with full relaunches, not instead of.

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Is Poppys rework still in development

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Whats next for the lore team

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We have a lot of things to do, including rewrites and expansions of old bios and current character introductions, but we feel like we are on the right path, particularly as the response to the kind of template for the new introductions has been received so positively. We still have layout stuff to sort out, but the style of content seems to be resonating and we think it’s a good start.

But that’s all we consider it to be. We want to get many more stories to you, combined with a stronger basis and understanding of our Champions and the world they inhabit. Burning Tides has just made us more determined to do that.

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Do you think disabling Gangplank has been received positively

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General EU Improvements July 2015

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TL;DR: There have been connectivity (including drophack) issues in EU for the last few months. We have recently implemented some improvements, and we have some additional improvements in progress.

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Over the last several months, connectivity to EU game servers has not been stable for some players. This includes disconnects, “drophacks”, unable to reconnect, and ghost games. (see our previous post on drophacks here:http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/ErvzMk1Y-increase-of-drophacks-may-2015)
Rioters from both EU and NA offices have been working closely together to identify specific issues and design solutions to protect your connections to LoL game servers.

Because much of what we have implemented involves security measures, we won’t go too deep into specifics. The Bad Guysâ„¢ read these boards as well, and we don’t want to give them any hints on how to be more annoying.

Here are some of the improvements we’ve rolled out, some globally and some specific to EU:

  • Tighter restrictions on network traffic able to reach Riot infrastructure. This is where, unfortunately, we must be vague. Just know that these restrictions provide more protection against drophacks and the random disconnects you might have experienced previously.
  • Server-side code optimizations have resulted in lower average load of game server processes. Not only is this just a good thing to do for energy conservation efforts, it also provides more capacity headroom to absorb malicious burdens, such as denial-of-service attacks.
  • Improved infrastructure monitoring. A common thread here at Riot is “If you don’t know about it, you can’t fix it”. In this case, we have improved our visibility into server, network, and inter-connectivity metrics. This, in turn, allows us to dig deeper and find issues affecting smaller groups of players.

But we are driving forward with more improvements:

  • Riot Direct. The exercise of building out a network across a multi-country continent is an exciting challenge. The team has been working hard negotiating locations and facilities, configuring equipment, and establishing ISP connectivity. We’re getting close to lighting up those links for LoL players, carrying all of that important network traffic across an infrastructure specifically designed for resiliency and low-latency.
  • Continued investment in security technologies. Riot teams of client, server, security, and infrastructure engineers have been busy writing up roadmaps and testing hardware/software for security improvements. Capital investments are prepared for further distribution of our security protections.

So there is a brief summary of some things Riot has been working on to improve the EU play experience of LoL. We have seen definite improvements in connectivity with the implemented measures, and we are driving to further improve with the upcoming changes. We are very committed to providing an awesome gaming experience. Thank you for playing LoL and sharing our passion for this great community of players!

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Pick 5 Champions that you feel are out of date and in need of changes

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  1. Poppy: Poppy’s kit is abusable, has poor gameplay interaction and has low output on anything useful other than “don’t die, kill things.”
  2. Yorick: Similarly, Yorick’s impact on a game is damaging in a bad way, and he fails to accurately meet the Necromancer fantasy in a way I think we could bring to life (heh)
  3. Irelia: Sorry to say, but true. She’s the poster child for “outstat u” and I think League could do better at providing gameplay along with power whenever possible.

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What is the future of Game design and what is Riot Games role in that

Morello Final PortraitGood question.

Game Design wise, we’ve never done an awesome job of laying out a cohesive vision for the game and I think that’s a necessary but big challenge for us. I think that’ll be the next mountain to climb. We’re a culture born out of reactive firefighting, and need to learn to burn the candle at both ends.

Myself, I think the biggest milestone I’m personally happy with is 2012’s champion roster. While we didn’t solve everything, I think we did a lot to make champions feel thematically and gameplay-wise more different when compared to the 2011 roster, where there was a big trend of normalization. I’m also happy from helping grow the team from something small into something bigger, but that’s internal to Riot 🙂

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Does Riot actually plan on making any other games

Morello Final PortraitI hope so. That’s what I’m supposed to be working on every day right now 🙂

Apologies for being vague (need to be), but I can provide some color on what we’re interested in:

  • Genres we like to call “gamer’s games” overall – stuff you can really sink your teeth into.
  • For IP, I think doing only one or the other would be short-sighted. We’re working a lot to bolster League’s IP, so there’s opportunities there to make that come to life in different ways. Likewise, if that’s ALL we did, it might be too limiting for some concepts. Whatever it is should fit the game in question.

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Will this RD project affect League of Legends directly

Morello Final PortraitNot the one I’m working on, though it’s possible that we’d use an R&D process to solve some of the meatier or more isolated problems if we really need to reinvent the wheel on something.

Overall, R&D is a space where we want to have a lot of opportunity to go big or go home. “Fail fast” is a term we use to make sure we’re chasing things that are actually resonant and that actually matter, so I suppose that could be applied to a lot of things where a big discovery phase is needed.

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What exactly does RD mean at Riot

Morello Final PortraitR&D, for us, is a way of exploring things that are other products or games we should figure out the fit for.

In these efforts, we get a thesis for something together and try to work to understand if that’s something we should invest to quickly. This can be met with a lot of ambiguity, failure and reboots as we take bold, risky brush strokes at problems to gain information, which is why it’s important to be pretty tight-lipped about it.

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What are your thoughts on Riots interaction with the community

Morello Final PortraitFrankly? Personally? I think we’re too careful.

This is all well-intended (wanting to do the right thing in the right way), but in my mind, overthinking it can lead to unintended results. I’d rather have a quick scrap and hug it out afterwards than avoid the scrap. This is the way I think we avoid “big company entity” and “big playerbase” and gets us into “people and humans”. Without that, it’s hard to build trust or good relationships.

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Morello Final PortraitOne thing I’ll add is that I can say this at all without fear of reprisal is an example of Riot’s beating heart and soul, though. That’s the ever-present optimism for this that I have.

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What do you think an individual player Rioter could do to improve this

Morello Final PortraitGood question.

For players, I think asking for clarity and trying to contain rage is more inviting to the conversation, which makes people feel safer to post overall. The reason I tend to be so cavalier with it is the experience with the community and feeling “safe” to post. It’s earnestly hard to be motivated to get yelled at a lot 🙂

For Rioters, I think boldness and an understanding that the world won’t end if you say something a bit off-color is important. I’ve send some incredibly stupid shit in my time, and I haven’t been smote by a meteor.

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How much do you think the game will have changed in say three years

Morello Final PortraitIt’s hard to say from afar, but there’s always the line to toe of “evolution” vs “this isn’t League anymore.”

Personally, I think the game does a good job in being really deep on optimization and mastery, but I’ve always wanted to see more variety too. Maybe that’s naive at this point, but more possible ways to play would be one of the things I think would benefit LoL lots.

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Do you think Riot have improved on their champion design

Morello Final PortraitGetting better (Tahm Kench I particularly like), but I think we can go further with abilities that can be very powerful or fail spectacularly, like Bard’s ult.

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Morello Final PortraitI think more of the quality where things are less “clearly optimal” on some abilities and let players do janky or more creative things with those abilities.

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Do you still want the Drain Tank Fantasy to exist in League eg Aatrox

Morello Final PortraitI can’t talk in the detail necessary for this these days of what’s possible (since I’m not working on LoL these days), but I can answer the more philosophical question of Drain Tank.

I still believe Drain Tank can work, but I think it can’t be auto-attack based. AAs are sort of an automatic DPS meter you can fill when in your attack range, and have a lot of their own tuning.

Someone like Fiddlesticks might be a better model, if you made it so more champs could interact with his W and disrupt it. Then you get some back-and-forth between how he uses the skill, if you can disrupt it and costs/benefits to that. An AA-based drain tank will just stat check you and be a spreadsheet problem – something I think neither myself nor the LoL team is particularly find of since it removes a lot of the interesting decisions around it.

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What is your opinion on the new HUD

Morello Final PortraitI generally like the way it gets in the way less, but I’m still having to get used to where the info is. I’d have to see when my eyes settle in to it.

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Have you considered adding a champion that copy enemy ally spells

Morello Final PortraitWe’ve tried this before, but one major challenge that we have is no animations are “shared” other than some basic attacks (and even those have different timings). Imagine if you stole Garen’s Spin to Win and we tried to make LeBlanc do that with no animation, or had to make exponential animations to support that. We’d have to stop making all other content. 🙂

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Do you think Dominion will get an overhaul at some point

Morello Final PortraitI highly doubt it. This is a complex subject (I’ve talked about it in the past) but while we’ve learned a lot from Dominion, I think it’s hard to validate doing significant work on it.

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On the topic of heavy fighters in the meta, Meddler confirmed that new items to help immobile champions will be released in Patch 5.16 or 5.17.

 

 

Fighters are hard to balance because they share many Ranged ADC items

Meddler Final Portrait We’re on the same page when it comes to fighters and ADC item overlap, which makes it difficult to offer effects that are an appropriate fit for one class, but not the other. Removing ranged crit’s not the solution we’re trying out however, we feel that does add some important value to the ADC role. What we’re looking into instead for fighters are items that:

 

  • Are a combination of offensive/defensive effects and therefore generally of noticeably lower appeal to ADCs who want to go full offense (e.g. the revised Black Cleaver which has a significant part of its budget spent on health, something fighters are fine with, but ADCs often aren’t).
  • Offer additional rewards when combined with other defensive/partially defensive items (Atma’s Impaler back in the day was an example of this sort of effect. It did have some other issues and so we felt we had to remove it, we believe there may be some variants on the concept that work better however).
  • Help melee champions engage in a fight, or stick to targets better once in a fight, in ways that aren’t as consistently useful or accessible on ranged champions (Randuin’s and Phage are good examples of this category) .

We’re currently working on some items using the above approaches, which are intended in part to be good fits on heavy, immobile fighters like Garen, Darius, Udyr etc. More details to follow sometime pretty soon (patch 5.16 or 5.17 at a guess, so potentially hitting PBE 1-3 weeks from now, depending on how the rest of the work goes).

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Will the new items help out AP fighters

Meddler Final PortraitThis is AD focused work, we feel AP itemization’s in a generally good spot for now after the 5.13 changes.

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Will there be any changes to Essence Reaver

Meddler Final PortraitEssence Reaver we’ll look at when we work on ADC itemization.

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Do you characterize immobile fighters as those without blinks dashes

Meddler Final PortraitYeah, that’s the sort of distinction we’ve got in mind here, with heavy fighters being those without dashes/jumps/blinks. Fighters that have to fight, or at least walk past, the enemy front line, rather than diving onto their preferred targets.

Also very much a soft distinction, rather than a black/white mobile/immobile thing, particularly in cases where a champion’s strongest back line access is a longer CD ult (e.g. Shyvana).

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Meddler Final PortraitLack of burst mobility’s what we’re looking at here, as opposed to sustained or strategic mobility.

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Will we see these new items in the Patch 5 15 PBE cycle

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ve got a lot of stuff being worked on for 5.16 or possibly 5.17. As a result 5.15 will be a somewhat smaller patch than usual.

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Zyra might be getting some love in future patches in the form of afterlife:

 

 

What if Zyra could revive like Anivia if her passive killed a champion

Meddler Final PortraitThat’s a really cool suggestion, and a change that would fit well with Zyra’s playstyle and backstory. We’ll do a bit of experimentation with that sort of approach, see if we can get a version that plays well in game without being excessively strong. Can’t guarantee we’ll end up shipping any changes, definitely worth investigating though.

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How often does Zyra get to kill someone with her passive

Meddler Final PortraitI don’t have any stats on average Zyra kills with passive per game, though must admit I’m curious now. Anecdotally I’m guessing somewhere around the one kill a game mark. That’s not going to offer that many respawn opportunities, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Occasional high moments can create some really memorable games and a low rate of occurrence means that not too much of a champion’s power budget needs to be spent on such an effect. High variance effects can be tough to balance at times, since a really good or lucky player can sometimes achieve extreme results we need to balance around. In this case though given the setup requires death and the reward would be lack of death that might not be too much of an issue however (again, can’t promise this’ll go anywhere yet of course).

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What purpose do death passives serve on a champions kit

Meddler Final PortraitWe feel death passives can be the right choice in a couple of circumstances.

  1. High risk patterns that result in death frequently/where the best way to play is to expect to die in an even team fight. Post death passives here give you some chance for contribution regardless of how quickly you die and synergize well with the sort of actions you should be taking anyway (middle of enemy team or front of your own team). Sion and Karthus are the best examples here, with both often doing it right if they end up dead near the enemy team. Zyra’s fits this category slightly, as a squishy, immobile mage with moderate cast ranges, whose contribution drops off significantly after she’s used her CDs/seeds.

  2. When we want to offer a champion more power when they’re having a poor game than a successful one. If a character’s too feast or famine, absolutely crushing some games and failing to contribute anything in others, then a post death passive can be a good fit, since it offers more power to the struggling games. Kog’Maw’s the best example of this, with the passive being non existent in games where he’s stomping and a pretty reliable true damage AOE in games where he’s having a lot of trouble. Zyra comes into this category pretty solidly. She’s got a lot of damage between her plants and spells and regularly tops damage charts when having a reasonable game. She’s pretty vulnerable though when her spells are on CD/against enemies with the right tools to avoid them, so if she’s not having a good game she can end up dying a lot.

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How about giving Zyra a temporary revive like what Sion has

Meddler Final PortraitYeah, there are a bunch of approaches that might fit here depending on the power that’s appropriate and the gameplay desired. Main ones that leap to mind that we’ll talk about internally being:

  • True respawn at point of kill, point of Zyra’s death or back at the fountain
  • Temporary respawn at point of kill
  • Substantially reduced death timer per champion killed by the passive

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PURPOSE OF AUTOMATED PUNISHMENT SYSTEM

Lyte has outlined why the Mute feature alone doesn’t solve toxicity and why League needs an automated report system.

 

Why do we need an automated system when we can just mute toxic players

Lyte Final PortraitWe consider the “Mute” feature to be a last resort. When a player has to use the “Mute” feature, the damage has already been done. Your experience is already worse, you are already less likely to play another game, and you already don’t enjoy League as much as before. The “Mute” feature is a last resort to prevent any further harassment or abuse. Just because a feature like this exists doesn’t mean it’s OK for players to spew hate speech or be racist or verbally abusive. The vast majority of players in League hate these types of behaviors, and we should respect these players and not tell toxic players it’s OK to be dicks just because a “Mute” feature exists.

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Are you worried about trolls getting others player in trouble over flaming

Lyte Final PortraitThe good news is, we’re adding some Intentional Feeder Detection features into the Instant Feedback System in the next patch or two… so don’t worry, players won’t be intentionally trolling or using gameplay toxicity to “escape” the system soon.

Although the Tribunal engine is “machine learning” based, it actually has a lot of human checks in place. No system is truly “automated,” and for a player to be permanent banned they actually have to go through checks from multiple systems. Cases are reviewed by human Player Support staff all the time, and we do random checks on accuracy all the time, especially for cases that are “right on the line.”

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How often do punished players use hate speech make racist remarks etc

Lyte Final PortraitGenerally, players that get a penalty show a large pattern of these behaviors. Unless your 3 chat logs are severe hate speech or something awful like that, you will most likely never see a penalty especially if you’ve had 100s of neutral or positive games.

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Is retaliating to a troll or flamer considered toxic behavior

Lyte Final PortraitRetaliation isn’t OK. It just makes it a worse experience for the 8 other players. If there was a player that initiated, they are most likely punished as well.

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Is the Darius rework coming within the next 3 patches

Meddler Final PortraitIt’s very likely it will.

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Will Gangplank be nerfed

Meddler Final PortraitNo changes in 5.15 at the very least. Right now there are a lot of people playing GP who’ve never played him before and even those that have are having to learn some new stuff given the kit changes. That’s making it a bit hard to get a gauge on what his long term power’s like, initial reaction though is that it’s in roughly the right ballpark.

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How to swap between Bilgewater music and updated SRU music

Stephiroth Final PortraitAhoy, Summoners!

We have temporarily added the ability to toggle between Updated Summoner’s Rift music and Bilgewater music on SRU.

This option has temporarily replaced the ability to enable “Classic” music.

Summoner’s Rift Games will currently default to using “Updated” music, however you can switch it to Bilgewater music by navigating to the Sound section in the Options menu, and selecting the Theme Music as “Bilgewater”.

  • You may have some difficulty enabling the Bilgewater Theme to due a current bug with the HUD. To enable it easily, you will need to open the drop down, hover over it with your cursor, and use the Mouse Wheel (middle button/scroll button) to scroll down and select the Bilgewater option.

There are some bugs you may notice with the music currently. Notably:

  • When switching from Bilgewater Music to Updated Music, the Updated Music may play over itself twice. This bug actually existed with the Classic music option too, but we did not uncover it until recently due to the low frequency of players switching between music. We are investigating a fix for that to be deployed in 5.15 🙂 This won’t occur with the Bilgewater track, only with the Updated track.
  • You may notice the Victory/Defeat music is still Bilgewater music, even though you have set your option to Updated music. This should only occur at the End of Game Victory/Defeat banner.

If you have any questions or feedback, feel free to comment!

EDIT: Just as a note, you will only experience the toggle in Matchmade games on Summoner’s Rift. The Bilgewater music is not activated for Custom SR games, or games on any other Maps (besides Butcher’s Bridge).

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Will Windows 10 and League of Legends be Friends

DARTAGNAN Final Portrait Hey all,

The answer is yes! We have been been extensively testing Windows 10 here at Riot, and we will be fully supporting Windows 10. If you haven’t heard already, you will be able to freely upgrade to Windows 10 as long as you have Windows 7 or 8.1 (8 users need to update to 8.1) already installed. If you do decide to upgrade, here is what you need to know:

  • Make sure to check whether your computer meets the requirements for Windows 10
  • If you do update, Windows 10 should download all the necessary updates or latest drivers for your hardware automatically. If you do have problems afterwards, you may need to contact your computer manufacturer (Dell, HP, etc) or your hardware manufacturer (MSI, Gigabyte, Nvidia, AMD, etc) to manually download the latest updates or drivers. Since it was just released, some manufacturers may not have updated drivers/updates ready

NOTE: Older hardware not directly supported by its own manufacturers anymore may not have new drivers for Windows 10.

  • Make sure to play a Custom Game first after updating to make sure everything works normally! You don’t want to be in a Ranked Game if suddenly your mouse stops working

  • If you encounter any problems with League of Legends immediately after upgrading to Windows 10, make sure to run a repair first, to see if it resolves any problems. If not, try completing a full and clean re-installation as well.

  • If all else fails, make sure to submit a ticket! This way we can easily track any compatibility issues that may occur with Windows 10. Make sure to include the following in your ticket as well:


Lastly, if you are experiencing any issues, make a post with the following information filled out:

Operating System: Windows 10
Graphics Card:
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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]

 

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Darius will be receiving a minor gameplay update and potentially some unique new mechanics.

 

Can we have an update on Darius

Scruffy Final PortraitWe’ve actually come back around to the work that started 2 years ago and will have something to show very soon. Statikk picked up the darius project after he finished working on Gangplank, and it turns out we can make a lot of improvements for him without too many dramatic changes.

When it’s all done, he should have a more healthy + satisfying + some new unique stuff in his kit.

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I hope the ult stays the same

Scruffy Final PortraitAgreed, its pretty damn cool to just chop your enemies in half.

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Will he be getting a shield and a dash

Scruffy Final PortraitNo dash or shield sry.

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Mordekaiser is still slated for a rework and the team is currently debating on how to solve his mobility issues.

 

Any plans to make Mordekaiser viable

Meddler Final PortraitWe’re testing some really experimental changes for him at the moment that involve making it much more dangerous to be directly next to him. We have talked a lot about whether Morde should have some CC or more mobility. We concluded however that his lack of those tools was pretty definitional to his playstyle and an opportunity to potentially give him some effects we wouldn’t be able to do on a more mobile champion (in the same way that Nasus for example’s only allowed to have his stacking Q because he has trouble getting onto the targets he really wants).

Time wise within a month or two we should either be ready to talk about those changes in detail or be ready to say they didn’t work out and we’ve scrapped them. Worth noting that if we do them they’ll be very gameplay driven, so would only include visual changes as needed to support ability modifications. We would love to give Morde a visual upgrade in general, but have other champs that are before him in line for full overhauls.

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Can you tell us more about what Mordes identity will be post rework

Meddler Final PortraitWhat we’re currently testing is a more bruiser ish version of Morde, that builds somewhat tankier and doesn’t have as much front loaded damage. In playtests so far he’s still been able to put out quite a lot of damage in a short time frame, but he’s had to ramp up to it a bit first.

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Will you be making changes to his ultimate

Meddler Final PortraitMorde’s Ult will likely remain very similar to its current form.

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When you last made changes to Morde you said hed be more of a bruiser

Meddler Final PortraitWe did have a go at a similar approach when we were removing DFG. At that time however we only had a very brief period (one patch’s worth of development) to investigate and test changes. That wasn’t enough time to fix the issues we saw come up, or even investigate a decent range of approaches. We weren’t confident in the results of that work as a result, so ended up pulling almost all of it. This time we’re putting a solid amount of time aside for both experimentation and testing, so feel it’s worth taking another swing at that direction.

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How will the new Morde deal with being kited

Scruffy Final PortraitBeing an immobile melee with no CC does mean that you do get kited by champs like ashe or kallista. There’s two ways that we’ve thought about how Morde will be able to handle those types of champs/situations:

  1. More baseline defense – Morde right now relies almost entirely on dealing damage to stay tanky, which makes him even more dead when he cant get to target. We’re trying to bring up his reliable/baseline tankiness so that he can function better when he’s not winning already.
  2. Ally CC – This may sound like a bit of a cheesy answer but we really want Morde to be that much of a thread that allies and enemies will dread getting caught in CC when he’s nearby. If Nami lands that bubble, it’s go time for Morde.

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Do you mean Morde will have to rely on others to deal with mobility

Scruffy Final PortraitIt’s more like if I was talking about Janna (who has a lot of CC and very little damage) I would say that she is very good with ally damage. On the food chain of League of Legends, Morde will not bring the CC himself, but he does bring the damage. That will naturally pair well with allies that bring CC.

The end result wont be any farther on the “need my team to carry me” scale than amumu, janna, jinx etc.

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Are you thinking of making Morde somewhat more like Darius

Scruffy Final PortraitCloser to that sort of space yeah. We’ve got some ideas on how to reduce the ‘what do I do if I’m melee against this guy’ problem, we’ll see how they work out though.

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Will Morde receive a visual update with his gameplay changes

Scruffy Final PortraitThis time around he wont be getting the full shabang (like sion or GP) but he will be getting some small visual love to represent some of the new gameplay that he’s getting. Overall it’ll be mostly upgraded spell VFX.

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How about removing promo series for divisions weve already reached

Riot Mirross Final PortraitThese ideas are good. We’re looking at making some changes like this at the end of this season. We’d like to reduce ambiguity around when demotion shortly after you’re promoted, as well as the pain points when you’re climbing back to a division you’ve already reached.

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Have you considered giving us a free win in promo series we’ve failed before

Riot Mirross Final PortraitYes. We decided not to make any mid-season changes, but this is something we’re planning to do.

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Wont these changes make it easier to climb and harder to fall back down

Riot Mirross Final PortraitActually changes like this aren’t going to increase the number of people in any tier overall. It’s a zero-sum game.

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Mastery Emotes will soon be visible to enemies, although they’ll still have an internal cooldown and will be affected by muting.

 

Werent Mastery Emotes supposed to be visible to enemies 3 patches ago

Riot Mirross Final PortraitWe’re are going to change this soon (not next patch, that’s already locked, probably one after) – it was mistakenly in a patch note, which caused the confusion.

We’re going to slightly increase the cooldown and make it respect muting before we make that change though.

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When we tested this on pbe it could get a little spammy when abused. We decided to increase the cool down before going live with it. It will be appearing in one of the coming patch cycles.

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How about rewarding us with 500 1000 IP for achieving level 5 Mastery

Socrates New PortraitWe agree the rewards are probably too light atm for these achievements. We think we can do better than ip. Can’t share too much on this yet but it is something we are looking at.

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Lyte expands on the upcoming Team Builder Draft mode and answers community questions for why a vote feature to kick/leave Champion Select is still absent.

 

Team Builder is underrated

Lyte Final PortraitWe’ll be the first to admit that Team Builder “Classic” solves a lot of problems, but also has a few major issues that we’ve solved in the new Team Builder Draft experience. For context, Team Builder “Classic,” reduced reports by about 26%, increased honors by about 18%, and reduced negative/toxic chat by about 36% in wins, and 23% in losses. It also reduced leavers/AFKs by about 8-10%, I don’t remember that one off top of my head.

One of our primary goals in Team Builder Draft is to retain some of the benefits above in the design of the system, but invest heavily in solving the queue time issues and improving the matchmaking quality. We’ve also invested in the actual UI work so that it’s much faster to setup your team, play with friends and get into the game.

So far in testing where we bring players into Riot HQ to test Team Builder Draft, we’ve seen the vast majority of players prefer the experience over every other queue experience. So for now, we’re not going to encourage players to funnel into Team Builder “Classic,” and we’re going to see if Team Builder Draft is popular enough that it becomes the dominant Champion Select experience.

Happy to answer questions about Team Builder Draft in this thread.

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Whatre your thoughts on a votekick leave system for Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitWe played around with a few “Vote Kick” designs before, and the results were surprising. First, let’s assume the design is a simple: players in Champion Select can vote to kick a player, and you need 4 out of 5 votes to proceed.

Immediately, we saw the behaviors change in Champion Select. One, players began using the “Vote Kick” feature when they didn’t like a particular team comp, when they felt like the Captain didn’t ban the appropriate champions, when players played off-meta champions, and sometimes when they felt the opposing team comp was better than theirs. This dramatically increases the amount of time it takes to get through a Champion Select and into the game as many Champion Selects fail out and you have to start over, and then players will complain about it taking 15-20 minutes to actually get through a Champion Select and load into a match. Now to play one game, you need anywhere from 1 hour to 1.5 hours of free time, which was way too high of a time commitment. Secondly, some scenarios with Duo Queues became even more frustrating, because if a Duo Queue group was being negative in Champion Select you still had nothing you could do to resolve it, and the situations felt even worse than before.

Some additional designs would be to give every player only 1 “Vote Kick” per day, but just giving 1 vote to every player increased failed Champion Selects by ~20%, which means that you’re now going through multiple Champion Selects just to get into a game. We also reduced the penalty for queue dodging before, which would make it “less painful” for players to queue dodge if they absolutely had to, but this increased failed Champion Selects by about ~30%, and again players started complaining about failed Champion Selects and taking too long to get into a game.

We think that Team Builder Draft will ultimately solve Champion Select issues better than most other features or systems, so we decided to work on that system first because it also solves a bunch of other problem spaces such as better retention and onboarding for low level players and giving players more control over their Champion Select experience. If Team Builder Draft does not improve Champion Select enough, we have some ideas ready to go such as allowing players to report when someone doesn’t play the position they specified, or allowing players to give us a reason (and specify a player) if they choose to queue dodge.

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Can we have an ETA on Team Builder Draft

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s a major change to the pre-game flow, and a brand new Champion Select, so we want to avoid this big of a disruption in the 2015 Season. We didn’t start too long ago, while we were researching and learning from lessons in Team Builder Classic we were working on a slew of features like Party Rewards (for events like the Pool Party), Suggested Players, LeaverBuster, the machine learning Tribunal and Instant Feedback System and the new Intentional Feeder detection that’s going out in the next patch or two.

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How will Riot encourage players to use the Team Builder

Lyte Final PortraitIf the live beta test goes well (and is similar to our lab tests where we bring players into Riot HQ to try out Team Builder Draft), it might be an option to replace some queues which will funnel players into the new experience. However, in the system itself we’ve introduced the “Fill” position which helps reduce queue times, and we’re requiring players select 2 positions (instead of 1) which also reduces queue times. If we have to, we’re also going to incentivize the high demand positions so you get a small bonus for playing them. We think these 3 things combined should solve the queue time issues nicely.

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Will there be the option to queue for every role in Team Builder

Lyte Final PortraitYou can queue up as “Fill,” which basically covers all positions. It’s a new position we’re introducing with Team Builder Draft.

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Context for Yorick Rework Delay Banner

Yorick’s rework is still a long ways off… you can bury your hopes again.

 

Why isnt Yorick a top priority for the rework

Scruffy Final PortraitI feel you on this, and agree that he is in dire need of an update. That said, we want to take the time to do him right and he is in early stages of gameplay design, concepting, and lore work.

Don’t expect him to come out before Poppy/Taric (both are much farther along), but do know that we are working on him and we are not gonna put it down until we finish. Yorick can be soooo much more than he is and I hope that you will like the results when he’s finally rebuilt from the ground up.

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Scruffy Final PortraitAfter Xelnath stopped working on yorick we didn’t end up picking it back up until very recently (march ish if I remember correctly, ah you linked it too). We definitely used some of his work as a starting point and have continued iterating from there.

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Poppy’s visual update won’t so much cater to seasoned Poppy players as it will draw in newcomers to the Champion.

 

What can you tell us about Poppys upcoming visual update

IronStylus Final PortraitWell, so good news and bad news:

Good news: Poppy will get a visual update. She’s in the same camp as Sion, Taric, Urgot, etc which will recieve complete overhauls which will not only increase fidelity and introduce a newer and cleaner design, but also will aid in clarify and mechanical expression. We did a lot exploration on Poppy and are happy with what we’ve got. She’s currently in the art production pipeline as her kit has been locked for some time. Now it’s a matter of time and the technical work of getting that new character to live in game.

“Bad” news: Poppy is shipping with a complete kit overhaul which will retain the spirit of Poppy, and utilize some signature abilities, but will probably vary pretty significantly than current Poppy. Think of the same way which we wanted to retain the “feeling” of Sion while keeping virtually nothing of his existing kit. I’e played her, and she’s really, really fun. I think players old and new will find a home with her. I think that’s what’s going to bring her into a place where she’ll be loved by passionate players but also new players alike.

So shipping the visual update probably isn’t going to turn people onto existing, present-day Poppy as much as it will excite people to try what is fundamentally a brand new character which takes what we love about Poppy, amplifies it, and makes her more cohesive. Our goal on ChampUP is to excite enthusiasts, to get at what the real and visceral emotional attachments that bind them to a character and hone them, making that feeling more clear, maybe even stronger. Often that means pretty substantial change, for multiple reasons. Unique identity, clear role and play pattern, character/kit/art cohesion, among other things. A sub-goal is to bring that character up so at the very least new players are aware of the character and can approach it comfortably. To bring that champion back into some rotation even if it’s with a smaller but dedicated slice of players.

The team is very excited about Poppy. I’m happy to have been part of her development and can’t wait for people to get a hold of this take on her. Though things change, the spirit is there I feel.

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Are there any upcoming champion changes that don’t involve VUs

IronStylus Final PortraitThere is a kit change in the works for Shen, with that comes our investigation as to how much visual changes (model, animation, VFX, etc) have to go towards facilitating the gameplay overhaul. We always ask the question about scope. How much scope does this need, and how much do we want it to have? We currently are exploring ideas for a new base design for Shen, but this for the moment remains an exploration. It might be beyond scope lets say to redesign his base. But, if we deem it a substantial opportunity, or something that really needs more art resources to make the new mechanics work, then we’ll scope the project up.

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Even if Riot pick up a fan idea for a skin they wont spoil the surprise

Kindlejack Final PortraitPretty much what I was going to say.

However I can give you more context on how we go about choosing what projects to work on. When we have a meeting to ideate on thematics and champions for skins we always bring up relevant fan concepts and take note of how much player support they have garnered. We never just say ‘This concept got 8k upvotes so let’s make it’ but if an idea is popular it will at least be considered in the spread or used as a starting point for a design. I would say skins team (with people like Whist, Galetta, Nurse Flan and KateyKhaos to name a few) keeps a close eye on fan concepts, not just on the boards but also on the Chinese/Korean/Garena sites. Riot Penguin also takes player requests on the weekends just for fun, but they are often pretty great ideas (Armoured Annie plz).

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Is this your approach for fanmade champion concepts

Kindlejack Final PortraitNo, skins are additive in that we can create one knowing that there will be more in the future. Champions are absolute, once they launch then that’s it. The champion team spend a lot longer crafting a champion and it’s a collaborative effort between art, gameplay and narrative. I’m not on that team though so I can’t give you as much insight.

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Whatre your thoughts on the fan idea for a Firedancer Draven skin

Kindlejack Final PortraitI brought it up when we were working on Pool Party Draven. It was decided that Gladiator Draven already had fire particles and ‘Firedancer’ didn’t fit enough into the ‘Pool Party’ theme. I’ll bring it up again next time there is Draven ideation because I still think it’d be a great fit for him.

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Do limited time skins ever come back

KateyKhaos Final PortraitHiya!

We have both limited and legacy skins.

Legacy skins will periodically come back to the store. Examples of these are Kitty Kat Katarina, or Poro Rider Sejuani. Limited skins are removed once the event is over, and there is no guarantee they’ll return to the store/be made available again. These would include skins such as Rusty Blitzcrank, Championship Riven and Victorious skins (Jarvan, Janna, Elise, Morgana).

You can find the full list of both legacy and limited skins here.

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Hippalus mentioned that Championship Riven may return to the store

KateyKhaos Final PortraitYup! Hippalus did say there’s a possibility. :]

“Yes I think Championship Riven will come back someday. Most limited edition skins took four years to come back after release, and it’s been two years for Riven so far.”

As far as I know, the statement still stands.

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Are World Championship skins classified as Legacy or Limited

KateyKhaos Final PortraitSure! Championship Thresh and Shyvana are legacy, as well as the commemorative Championship team skins, such as SKT, SSW, etc.

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Will we be able to get skins like Silver Kayle or Black Alistar eventually

KateyKhaos Final PortraitHiya!

We deactivated the older skin codes to due 3rd party sites scamming players, claiming they could buy rare skins like PAX TF, when in fact, they were given fake codes, or codes that had already been used.

We informed players in advance that we were doing this, so if they had codes hanging around, they had the opportunity to redeem them before the codes were deactivated. you can check out more information about why we decided to deactivate the codes here.

I agree with Chat97 that there is some uniqueness to having a skin from beta, or even Victorious skins from previous seasons, and selling them now would leave bad sentiments to those who earned them during x event.

I understand the frustration that arises, especially if you’ve joined the game, and don’t have the opportunity to buy/use these skins, however, at this time, we do not have plans to make these rare skins (Silver Kayle, PAX skins, etc.) available for distribution/purchase.

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Fan Art Tristana by Meltedjujubees

You can check out more of Meltedjujubees‘s work HERE.

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Fan Art - Riven by Songoanda

You can find the rest of Songoanda‘s work HERE.

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]

 

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Patch 5.12 will hit live in the early hours of June 24th, assuming there are no delays. Here are its contents:

 

Store Content

Visual

Balance

 

Here’s what you can expect to be in the NEXT PBE cycle for Patch 5.13:

  • New ChampionRiver King
  • Update to Pathfinding to fix unintentional minion block
  • Changes to core AP items, detailed HERE
  • [ UNCONFIRMED ] Gangplank’s rework, as recently teased on the PBE by 3 blank items
  • Bug fix for Syndra’s E + Q Combo occasionally not stunning enemies
  • HUD Update – preview HERE
  • Abyssal Scepter rework – currently not being worked on
  • Mandrake Ward - preview HERE, also in development hiatus

 

 

Pool Party Draven

Pool Party Draven will be available for 975 RP.

 

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Pool Party Draven Model 1

Pool Party Draven Model 2

Pool Party Draven Recall

For his recall, Pool Party Draven sunbathes (minus the sun).

 

Pool Party Draven Q 1

Pool Party Draven Q 2

Spinning Axe [ Q ]

 

Pool Party Draven W

Blood Rush [ W ]

 

Pool Party Draven E

Stand Aside [ E ]

 

Pool party Draven R

Whirling Death [ R ]

 

 

Pool Party Dr Mundo

Pool Party Dr. Mundo will be available for 975 RP. He’s also part of the Pool Party community event and will be handed out to free (along with Mundo) to players if the Tier 6 (55 million points) reward stage is reached.

 

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Pool Party Mundo Model 1

Pool Party Mundo Model 2

Pool Party Mundo Recall

For his recall, Mundo starts playing his banjo and then he smashes it on the ground.

 

Pool Party Mundo Q 1

Infected Cleaver [ Q ]

 

Pool party Mundo New W

Burning Agony [ W ]

 

Pool Party Mundo E

Masochism [ E ]

 

Pool Party Mundo R

Sadism [ R ]

 

 

Pool Party Lulu

Pool Party Lulu will be available for 975 RP.

 

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Pool Party Lulu Model 1

Pool Party Lulu Model 2

Pool Party Lulu Model 3

Pool Party Lulu Recall

For her recall, Pool Party Lulu hides under her octopus costume and looks for her staff.

 

Pool Party Lulu Basic Attack

Basic attack

 

Pool Party Lulu Q 1

Glitterlance [ Q ]

 

Pool Party Lulu W 1

Pool Party Lulu W 2

Pool Party Lulu W 4

Whimsy [ W ] (Cast on Enemy)

 

Pool Party Lulu W 5

Pool Party Lulu W 6

Whimsy [ W ] (Cast on Ally)

 

Pool Party Lulu W 3

Help, Pix! [ E ] (Cast on Enemy)

 

Pool Party Lulu E 1

Help, Pix! [ E ] (Cast on Ally)

 

Pool Party Lulu R 1

Pool Party Lulu R 2

Wild Growth [ R ]

 

 

Pool Party RekSai

Pool Party Rek’Sai will be available for 1350 RP.

 

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Pool Party Reksai Model 3

Pool Party Reksai Model 4

Pool Party Reksai Recall

For her recall, Pool Party Rek’Sai circles around a frog on a leaf before devouring it.

 

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Pool Party Reksai Unburrowed Q 2

Queen’s Wrath [ Unburrowed Q ]

 

Pool Party Reksai Q Burrowed 1

Pool Party Reksai Q Burrowed 2

Pool Party Reksai Q Burrowed 3

Prey Seeker [ Burrowed Q ]

 

Pool Party Reksai W Burrowed 1

Pool Party Reksai Unburrow

Burrow / Unburrow [ W ]

 

Pool Party Reksai E Unburrowed 1

Furious Bite [ Unburrowed E ]

 

Pool Party Reksai E Closed

Pool Party Reksai E Reworked 2

Pool Party Reksai Reworked E 1

Tunnel [ Burrowed E ]

 

Pool Party Reksai R 1

Pool Party Reksai R 2

Void Rush [ R ]

 

 

Pool Party Zac

Pool Party Zac will be available for 1350 RP.

 

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Pool Party Zac Model 1

Pool Party Zac Model 2

Pool Party Zac Model 3

Pool Party Zac Recall

For his recall, Pool Party Zac leaps into the air and lands in a pool with a rubber Urf.

 

Pool Party Zac Passive 1

Pool Party Zac Passive 2

Cell Division [ Passive ]

 

Pool Party Zac Q 1

Stretching Strike [ Q ]

 

Pool Party Zac W 1

Unstable Matter [ W ]

 

Pool Party Zac E 2

Pool Party Zac E 3

Pool Party Zac E 1

 Elastic Slingshot [ E ]

 

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Let’s Bounce! [ R ]

 

 

 

New Chroma Packs

The following champions (and skins) have received recolors:

 

Caitlyn Rebel Chroma Pack

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Caitlyn Chroma 1 Caitlyn Chroma 2 Caitlyn Chroma 3

 

Darius Forge Chroma Pack

Darius_7 Darius_5 Darius_6

Darius Chroma 1 Darius Chroma 2 Darius Chroma 3

 

Morgana Haunt Chroma Pack

Morgana_7 Morgana_8 Morgana_9

Morgana Chroma 1

Morgana Chroma 2

Morgana Chroma 3

 

Tristana Punk Chroma Pack (Rocket Girl Tristana)

Tristana_9 Tristana_8 Tristana_7

Tristana Chroma 1 Tristana Chroma 2 Tristana Chroma 3

 

Zac Chroma Pack

Zac_5 Zac_4 Zac_3

Zac Chroma 1

Zac Chroma 2

Zac Chroma 3

 

Headhunter Master Yi Chroma Pack

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HH Yi Chroma 1

HH Yi Chroma 2

HH Yi Chroma 3

 

 

New Summoner Icons

 

This icon will be gifted to players for free for completing the Tier 3 part of the Pool Party community event:

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No idea how you can get this fella, but it will likely involve your wallet:

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New Galio Animations 

Galio’s received a VFX update for all his spells:

 

Galio VFX Q 1

Galio VFX Q 2

Resolute Smite [ Q ]

 

Galio VFX W

Bulwark [ W ]

 

Galio VFX E

Righteous Gust [ E ]

 

Galio VFX R 1

Galio VFX R 2

Idol of Durand [ R ]

 

 

Gatekeeper Galio VFX Update

Gatekeeper Galio’s green animations have received similar visuals:

 

Gatekeeper Galio Q 1

Gatekeeper Galio Q 2

Resolute Smite [ Q ]

 

Gatekeeper Galio W

Bulwark [ W ]

 

Gatekeeper Galio E

Righteous Gust [ E ]

 

Gatekeeper Galio R 1

Gatekeeper Galio R 2

Idol of Durand [ R ]

 

 

Brand VFX Update

Brand’s got brand new animations for his W and R:

 

Brand W 1

Brand W 2

Pillar of Flame [ W ]

 

Brand R 1

Brand R 2

Pyroclasm [ R ]

 

Cryocore Brand’s W and R have received the respective recolor:

Cryocore Brand W 1

Cryocore Brand R 1

Cryocore Brand R 2

 

 

Corki VFX Update

Corki’s received new animations & particles on his spells:

 

Corki Q Updated 1

Corki Q Updated 2

Phosphorus Bomb [ Q ]

 

Corki W 1

Corki W 2

Valkyrie [ W ]

 

Corki E 1

Gatling Gun [ E ]

 

Corki R 1

Corki R 2

Missile Barrage [ R ]

 

 

Nautilus New VFX

The particles on Nauti’s E and R have been cleaned up of excess rubble:

 

Nautilus E 1

Nautilus E 2

Riptide [ E ]

 

Nautilus R 1

Nautilus R 2

Depth Charge [ R ]

 

AstroNautilus has also received the visual tweaks:

Nautilus Astro E

Nautilus Astro R

 

 

Anivia Splash Update

Anivia’s received a new splash art:

 

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Pool Party Minions

The Tier 4 reward of the Pool Party community event will have the minions all dressed up in summer attire:

 

Party Minions 1

Party Minions 2

Party Minions 3

Note, super minions don’t know how to party.

 

 

Champion Changes

 

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Quality of Life BoxRangers Focus Final IconRanger’s Focus [ Q ]

  • Tooltip on passive now states: “Hitting a spell or attack grants Focus for 4 seconds, stacking up to 5 times.”

 

 

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Buff BoxWinters Bite Final IconWinter’s Bite [ Q ]

  • Base damage increased from 60/105/150/195/240 to 70/115/160/205/250
  • Mana cost decreased from 55/60/65/70/75 to 45/50/55/60/65

 

 

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Change BoxGeneral

  • Mana pool per level increased from 40 to 50
  • Base Attack Speed decreased from 0.644 to 0.625
  • Attack Speed-per-level increased from 3% to 3.3%

 

Nerf BoxTimewinder Final IconTimewinder [ Q ]

  • AP ratio on initial hit decreased from 0.2 to 0.1

 


Nerf BoxChronobreak Final IconChronobreak [ R ]

  • Now has a mana cost of 100 (spell is free on live)

 

 

 

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Buff BoxSpider Swarm Final Icon Spider Swarm [ Passive ]

  • While in Spider Form, Elise’s basic attacks now heal her for 4/6/8/10 [+ 0.15 AP]

 

 

Nerf BoxSkittering Frenzy Final IconSkittering Frenzy [ Spider Form W]

  • Active no longer heals Elise for 4 [+ 0.04 AP] when she or her spiderlings deal damage

 

 

Buff BoxRappel Final IconRappel [ Spider Form E ]

  • After Elise lands, her spiderlings’ damage and resistance to AoE spells are both increased by 40/55/70/85/100% for the next 5 seconds

 

Quality of Life BoxSpider Form Final IconSpider Form [ R ]

  •   The tooltip text has been changed to: Elise transforms into a powerful sorceress, sacrificing 25 movement speed in exchange for 425 range and access to mage abilities. All awoken Spiderlings are put into a dormant state.

 

 

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Buff BoxIdol of Durand Final IconIdol of Durand [ R ]

  • Base damage decreased from 220/330/440 to 200/300/400
  • Each basic attack Galio receives during the taunt now increases the damage of Idol of Durand by 10%, up from 5%, and caps at 80%, up for 40%
  • Maximum damage has been increased from 308/462/616 [+0.84 AP] to 360/540/720 [+1.08 AP]

 

 

Gragas Final Portrait

 

Nerf BoxGeneral

  • Health-per-5 decreased from 8.7 [+0.85 per level] to 5.5 [+0.5 per level]

 

Nerf BoxBarrel Roll Final IconBarrel Roll [ Q ]

  • The duration of the slow if the barrel explodes immediately has been decreased from 2 seconds to 1.3
  • The slow duration now ramps up as the barrel is charging, up to a maximum of 2 seconds

 

 

Jarvan IV Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxDemacian Standard Final IconDemacian Standard [ E ]

  • Cooldown decreased from 13 seconds at all ranks to 13/12.5/12/11.5/11

 

 


Jax Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxGrandmasters Might Final IconGrandmaster’s Might [ R ]

  • The bonus Armor and Magic Resist Jax gains from the active have both been increased from 20/35/50 to 30/50/70

 

 

Lux Final Portrait  

 

Quality of Life BoxPrismatic Barrier Final IconPrismatic Barrier [ W ]

  • Casting the spell now shields Lux immediately (there’s a slight delay on live)

 

 

Quality of Life BoxLucent Singularity Final IconLucent Singularity [ E ]

  • You can now re-cast the spell immediately to detonate it (there’s a delay on live before you can re-cast it)

 

 

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Change BoxBrutal Strikes Final IconBrutal Strikes [ W ]

  • Damage on active decreased from 25/40/55/70/85 [+0.15 AP] to 15/30/45/60/75 [+0.1 AP] [+0.1 Armor]

[ Note ] Malphite’s W was reworked in Patch 5.11.

 

 

Ryze Final Portrait

 

Nerf BoxArcane Mastery Final IconArcane Mastery [ Passive ]

  • Stacks now last 10 seconds, decreased from 12
  • Supercharge state now lasts 2.5 seconds, decreased from 6, but can be increased to 3/3.5/4/4.5/5 seconds by putting ranks in Q

 

Change BoxOverload Final IconOverload [ Q ]

  • New passive: The supercharged duration of Arcane Mastery [ Passive ] is increased to 3/3.5/4/4.5/5 seconds, scaling with ranks in Q
  • Mana cost changed from 30/35/40/45/50 to 40 at all ranks
  • Base damage changed from 65/95/125/155/185 to 60/95/130/165/200
  • Hitbox width has been increased from 50 to 55

 

Change BoxRune Prison Final IconRune Prison [ W ]

  • Root duration changed from 0.75/1/1.25/1.5/1.75 seconds to 1/1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4
  • Base damage changed from 65/95/125/155/185 to 80/100/120/140/160

 

 

Trundle Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxSubjugate Final IconSubjugate [ R ]

  • Health drain increased from 20/24/28% to 20/27.5/35%

 

 


Tryndamere Final Portrait

 

Quality of Life BoxGeneral 

  • The crit animations for Tryndamere are now faster (helps microing between crits)

 

 

Item Changes

 

New Item BoxMagus Enchantment Final IconEnchantment: Runeglaive (replaces Magus enchantment)

  • New Recipe: Jungle Item + Sheen + 200 Gold (Total cost is 2250 Gold)
  • Grants 40 AP, 200 Mana and 10% CDR
  • UNIQUE Passive – Spellblade: After using an ability, the next basic attack deals converted magic damage, equal to 0.75 Base AD + 0.3 AP, in a small AoE (internal cooldown of 1.5 seconds). If the attack hits a monster, the user restores 8% of missing Mana.

 

Runeglaive

 

The Runeglaive enchantment also has a unique VFX for the Spellblade proc:

Runeglaive Effect

 

Hextech Sweeper Final IconHextech Sweeper [ Twisted Treeline only ]

  • Cooldown increased from 60 seconds to 90

[ Note ] Hextech Sweeper was reworked into a trinket in Patch 5.11.

 

 

Objectives

 

Turret IconNexus & Inhibitor Turrets

  • Attacks no longer slow enemies by 10% or reduce their damage by 15%

[ Note ] You can find context on this change HERE.

 

 

Defensive Masteries

 

New Item BoxRunic Blessing Final IconAdaptive Armor [Tier 4, replaces Swiftness]

  • If you have more Armor than Magic Resist, gain bonus MR equal to 4% of your Armor
  • If you have more Magic Resist than Armor, gain bonus Armor equal to 4% of your MR

 

Change BoxEnchanted Armor Final Icon Enchanted Armor [ Tier 1 ]

  • Moved from Tier 1 to Tier 5, replaced by Swiftness in tier tree, now replaces Legendary Guardian
  • Four points, each point increased the user’s bonus Armor and Magic Resist by 2.5%, up to a maximum of 10%

 

Change BoxLegendary Guardian Final IconLegendary Guardian [ Tier 6 ]

  • Moved from Tier 5 to Tier 6, replaced by Enchanted Armor, replaces Tenacious
  • Now has 1 rank, changed from 4
  • Grants 3 bonus Armor and Magic Resist for each nearby enemy champion, changed from 1/2/3/4 Armor and 0.5/1/1.5/2 MR per rank

 

Nerf BoxOppression Final IconOppression [ Tier 5 ]

  • Moved from Tier 3 to Tier 5, replaced by Tenacious in tier tree, now replaces Runic Blessing
  • Damage reduction from CC-ed enemies decreased from 3% to 2%

 

Removed BoxRunic Blessing Final IconRunic Blessing

  • Mastery removed, replaced by Oppression

 


Change BoxSwiftness Final IconSwiftness [ Tier 1 ]

  • Moved from Tier 4 to Tier 1, two points
  • Now reduces the effectiveness of slows by 7.5% with each point, up to a maximum of 15%, changed from 10% reduction with one point

 

Change BoxTenacious Final IconTenacious [ Tier 3 ]

  • Moved from Tier 6 to Tier 3, replaces Oppression, replaced by Legendary Guardian, one point
  • Now reduces the duration of CC by 10%, decreased from 15%

 

Here’s how the updated Defense Mastery Tree looks like now:

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected].

 

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Wont these changes force players to rush Deathcap early

[ Note ] Xypherous recently posted a changelist for every core AP item (the post also includes a lot more questions and answers on the topic).

Xypherous Final PortraitRushing a DCap is actually less efficient in this world – AP per AP. While the 5% increase is nice – the overall net AP you’re getting from the item, compared to price is lower. While each slot offers less overall AP (Zhonya’s and Ludens, for example) – they’re also slightly cheaper – So if you used to primarily start Zhonya’s – you would use the leftover gold to get a head start on the next item.

Eventually, Death Cap will be the highest AP for the buck – but along the path up to Deathcap – you should have similar AP / Point of Gold comparison – and you’ll be somewhat higher along the way if you ever incorporated Liandry’s / Void Staff / Nashor’s Tooth / AAA / RoA in any of your builds.

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I think these AP item changes couldve been more radical

Xypherous Final PortraitThere’s definitely more we can do on this front from a component / gold and items standpoint but this is a fairly light pass as I didn’t really want to disrupt the ecosystem too much. There’s a particularly set build that I want to break on the high AP triplet.

Then again, this also buffs every non Manareg, Boots, High AP triplet, Void Staff build – so at the very least, alternative playstyles aren’t so far behind the curve as the primary one.

However, before I go farther in this direction – I do want to validate some of my hypothesis in that it’s the right direction before planning more sweeping changes.

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Is it still possible to see a Darius rework this year

Meddler Final PortraitIt’s likely, though not guaranteed, that we’ll do some more work on Darius sometime this year. Odds are that’ll involve making him less of a lane bully, but giving him a better late game presence. Something else we’d also like to get to, and might bundle with that work, are some adjustments to fighter itemization, both in terms of a new item or two and some revisions to existing items.

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How do you plan on making Darius less of a lane bully

Meddler Final PortraitDisclaimer: This is far from set in stone. At a guess though, I’d expect him to still be a fairly dangerous laner, but not to the current ‘dominate you completely in lane otherwise he’s failed’ extent. Scope wise probably smaller than Ashe. Something along the lines of changes to the effects on some skills, but not complete replacement of anything.

And, just to keep expectations appropriate, this wouldn’t be just a bunch of buffs. We do want to get Darius to a spot where he can better contribute in team fights, whether through kit changes or better itemization. We also want to fix some of the laning problems he creates though, where some opponents are left without options apart from ‘lose a lot of farm or get heaps of jungler help’.

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The Pool Party event is currently at around 13875 million points

Hippalus Final PortraitHey OP, I appreciate the thought you’re putting into this. We aren’t looking at how this plays out as a black or white “failure” or “success”. We see this as dipping our toe in the water to explore if community reward events is something we want to do on a bigger scale in the future, and to understand what aspects are most important to players so we can make sure to get them right if/when we decide to go big. Some of the feedback so far has been helpful, some has been flat out incorrect, but we’ll take it all in and decide where to go next with community rewards. Here’s what I posted yesterday with some more detail…

Just wanted to hop in here and say that we’re still learning about these kinds of promotions and definitely want to know where we can improve. Our goal here was to create an event that would give the community a reason to play with friends and give everyone an opportunity to earn some cool rewards together. While we’ve obviously included ways to fund these rewards (gifting), we wanted to make sure we included ways for players who don’t want to spend any money to participate.

Earlier this year we ran Ocean Week in the Oceania region and players there BLEW through the goal way faster than expected. When we designed Team Up and Pool Party, we wanted to give the community a genuine challenge rather than a softball. The last couple levels are definitely stretch goals, intentionally designed to be tough to reach, but if it feels like this, then we didn’t get it right.

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BuboBubo New PortraitNice work! For future events we’re going to try and to a better job at recognizing players who go above and beyond.

Overall, this has been a huge learning experience for us. The parts we really like and want to do more of are giving the community a reason to come together and earn cool rewards. There is also a long list of things we want to do better next time around.

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Is there any reason not to ever reward players for solo queuing

Hippalus Final PortraitFair question. All of our research shows that on average players have more fun when they queue with friends so we’re trying to provide more reasons to make the effort to coordinate a game together. But we do realize that not everyone enjoys it as much, so that’s why you only have to win once to participate in the rewards. Maybe next time we can come up with more ways to contribute that appeal to players like you. Thanks for the feedback.

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[ Note ] You can check out the official teaser HERE.

 

 

DanielzKlein Final PortraitCan confirm that I’m the champion designer on whatever this thing is that’s coming downriver toward us.

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How many passives will the new Champion have

DanielzKlein Final Portrait3.

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What about true damage and knockups

DanielzKlein Final Portrait0 knock-ups, no true damage, no execute.

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Will all his abilities slow enemies

DanielzKlein Final PortraitYou’re so far off, friend.

Except for the Q slow. That’s spot on.

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Turrets are already weak so why are they being nerfed on the PBE

[ Note ] The Nexus / Inhibitor turrets were nerfed in this PBE update.

Meddler Final PortraitWe originally added the slow (and a -damage mod) to the Nexus/Inihb towers as an anti split pushing effect, at a time where we were concerned that split push was leading to low interaction games. That’s currently not the case however, very much the opposite in fact, with heavy team fight comps crowding out split push almost entirely. We’re not looking to make split pushing a staple of every game, but do think we’ve limited it too much, hence the removal of those effects.

In terms of the broader purpose of towers it is intended that the risk they pose to enemy champions decreases over the course of the game. Early on they’re zones of sanctuary, where it’s extremely risky to try and go in for a kill much of the time. Over time they transition to a helper role instead. Towers will turn the tide of a close fight, but they’re not going to be more dangerous than an enemy champion anymore. Late game in particular, once everyone’s past the individual laning period, it’s the presence of teammates instead that provides substantial zones of safety/support. Powerful late game towers, particularly if they can be held by a couple of champions against a full enemy team, result in slower, drawn out, low risk/interaction games.

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How long until the new Tribunal goes live

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s been about 8 months; however, a lot of the new foundation and skeleton is in place. The new Reform System has a machine-learning based engine backing it, and already hands out bans and Reform Cards in e-mails automatically within 5-15 minutes of the behavior occurring. We’re going to be adding in Intentional Feeder Detection and Elo Boosting soon too and rolling it out to the rest of the servers… so technically there’s already stuff that’s “live” that the old Tribunal did.

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Follow Up

Lyte Final PortraitOur current focus is Team Builder Draft, but we have a couple milestones for the new Reform System that we’d like to get out this year including real-time Intentional Feeder Detection, Elo Boosting Detection, and Tribunal Voting. There’s a couple other things we’d love to squeeze into this year’s package of features, but more details later.

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]

 

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PBE 27/03

 

[ Reminder ] The PBE is a testing ground for changes. What you see here may not reflect what you see in Patch Notes. Remember that developers want your feedback so if you disagree with a change, you can always submit your thoughts on the PBE Community Forums.

 

Check out Arclight Vayne, Guardian of the Sands Rammus and Skarner, and Morgana’s new VFX!

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You can also find previews of Satan’s legendary skin and Guardian of the Sands Xerath below:

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New Loading Screen Artwork

A new background for the Summoner’s Rift loading screen has been added:

 

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Here’s a preview of how the loading screen looks now:

 

 

Update to Arclight Vayne

Arclight Vayne’s hair has been fixed! Here are some comparison screenshots and an update on how the skin looks now:

 

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Arclight Vayne New Recall

For her recall, Arclight Vayne leaps into the air and ascends on her wings.

 

Here’s a picture of the flower-y effect above targets when Arclight Vayne crits.


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Night Hunter [ Passive ]

 

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Tumble [ Q ]

 

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Silver Bolts [ W ]

 

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Condemn [ E ]

 

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 Final Hour [ R ]

 

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Tumble in stealth [ R + Q ]

 

 

New Summoner Icons

Here’s a neat Satan icon you’ll presumably get by purchasing his legendary Omega Squad skin:

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Champion Changes

 

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  • Base damage increased from 46 to 52
  • AD-per-level increased from 3 to 3.5
  • Base armor increased from 21 to 25
  • Auto Attack range increased from 500 to 550

 

Traveler’s Call Final IconTraveler’s Call [ Passive ]

  • Chimes now restore 12% of maximum mana, increased from 8% of missing mana + 15

 

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  • Damage increased from 80/120/160/200/240 (+ 0.5 AP) to 80/125/170/215/260 (+0.65 AP)

 

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  • Mana cost removed (30 at all ranks on live)

 

 

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Noxian Guilotine Final IconNoxian Guillotine [ R ] – Reworked

  • If Noxian Guillotine kills its target, Darius restores 25/50/100 mana
  • At rank 3, Noxian Guillotine’s cooldown resets entirely on kill.

 

[ Note ] The range, damage and mana cost of the spell are the same, these are just new features. Darius can still recast his ult within 20 seconds for rank 1 and 2 if he kills his target with the ult.

 

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Demacian Justice Final IconDemacian Justice [ R ]

  • Cooldown decreased from 160/120/80 seconds to 120/100/80

 

 

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  • Base Health-per-5 decreased from 9.25 to 7
  • Base Mana-per-5 decreased from 7 to 6.5

 

 

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Explosive Charge Final IconExplosive Charge [ E ]

  • Cooldown increased from 16/15/14/13/12 seconds to 16/15.5/15/14.5/14


[ Note ] On the PBE, Tristana’s Rapid Fire [ Q ] decreases the cooldown of her E on every basic attack by 0.5 seconds (1 second for champions). You can find the change HERE.

 

Check out all the PBE updates from the Patch 5.7 Cycle:

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]

 

 

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The following Champions will be free-to-play until January 13th:

 

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at [email protected]