Â Riot is cracking down on 3rd party skin-selling websites and making codes unredeemable past July 23rd. Also,Â Ricklessabandon is on the community forums discussing the upcoming PBE changes to Muramana (and Manamune). IronStylus talks VU directions for Cho’Gath, Kassadin, Warwick, Pantheon and Zilean and explains why the Champion release schedule has been so inconsistent lately. Finally, in the Single Posts collection is a response to the “Featured Matches” presented on the client’s landing page and what LeBlanc’s poor win rate across ELO ranges can (or can’t) tell us about balance.
- Draggles / Yuka: 3rd Party Skin Sites
- ricklessabandon: PBE Muramana Changes
- IronStylus: On Visual Updates
Getting scammed sucks. Unfortunately the internet is full of shady people who take advantage of others. At Riot we strive to protect players from these scammers, and recently weâ€™ve noticed an increase in fraud around 3rd party skin sites and skin reselling.Â
These sites promise limited edition skins for League of Legends, when in reality they acquire codes illegitimately and exploit players. They charge excessive prices (we found one skin for over $1,000!) and sometimes take payment and never provide the content. You canâ€™t predict the outcome, and no purchase is ever guaranteed regardless of what the seller says. To make matters worse these services typically use bots. Bots are lame to play with and chew up additional server bandwidth, negatively impacting everyone.
Riot is taking action against these scammers at the source. We are working with multiple payment processors to inform them of the situation and recommend they no longer process fraudulent payments from these sites. Additionally we will be deactivating all previously issued skin codes starting today. If you have a skin code that you acquired legitimately please send a request toÂ Player SupportÂ and include proof of ownership. Weâ€™d be happy to help redeem the content to your account, but please note after 07/23/14 we will no longer be redeeming codes for any reason.Â
For more information about codes and how to send Player Support a request, check out ourÂ code cards FAQ.
Followup: Player Support willÂ notÂ be retroactively removing content and skins that have already been redeemed prior to this announcement.
We won’t be deactivatingÂ skinsÂ that you’ve already redeemed on your account using a code. What it means is that we’ll be deactivating allÂ codesÂ that currently exist. So anything that hasn’t been redeemed yet cannot be redeemed using the code in the normal way.
If you’ve recently attended an event and received a skin code from a Rioter, and you haven’t had a chance to redeem it yet, you can contact support. They will need to see proof that you own the code card (e.g. a photograph).
Cards issued at future events will have a set amount of days before they expire. (usually 5-7 days)
We are also experimenting with a digital alternative, which was trialed at Japan Expo in Paris last weekend.
Unfortunately, many of them were obtained in ways we don’t want them to be obtained, as well as that a high amount of those transactions that happened “on the internet” are very shady, and often result in people losing their money without getting the skin they bought.
A lot of our content creators have previously advertised skin shops in the past – we’re hoping that they will help spread the word via their channels. There’s also currently a thread on Reddit, and multiple Rioters are spreading the word on Twitter.
Most of these skin shops will be shutting down now as well. As was mentioned in the main post, we are also working with online payment processors to block payments going to 3rd party skin shops.
You need to write in to get them redeemed now. We won’t process anymore of these after the 23rd as per the announcement.
Just make sure you submit the physical cards with a piece of paper and your Summoner name/Username so we can get your content asap.
We are very much aware of drop hacks and DDoSes and have regular meetings and activities to try and decrease the impact and amount of them. Unfortunately, this is not a trivial problem to solveÂ Â but I can tell you that we are working rather hard on this topic!
tl;dr is that i’ve got some changes to muramana on the pbe and i’d love feedback for it! the most recent version of the changes should be in this post, along with a history of updates and a ‘frequently asked questions’ section. please leave any questions, comments, or concerns (on either the changes or this format for gathering feedback) in the comments section below!
and maybe it goes without saying, but these are all experimental and therefore highly subject to change! things like tuning, damage type, costs, etc could all be completely different by the time this ships (if any of it even ships at all)!
thanks in advance!
Â muramanaÂ (last updated 2014.07.10 @ 03:06)
this will temporarily be off of the pbe while we prepare the 4.12 patch
[remade] active :: spend 60 mana to gain 10 stacks of azure, then doubles the current mana cost and stack gain of this active. azure has a fixed duration of 9 seconds, and when it expires this active resets its mana cost and stack gain and then goes on cooldown (30 second cooldown).
edit: to clarify, the passive mana-to-ad conversion from ‘awe’ is unchanged!
update!Â (2014.07.10 @ 03:06)
okay, got some really helpful stuff from the first iteration! i’m going to go forward with the build path changes to manamune in the 4.12 patch, and continue explorations with various muramana actives. the next version should hit the pbe sometime after 4.12 goes live. until then, i’ve updated the item details above.
also, there were several bugs affecting tear, manamune, and muramana due to a one-time refactor we did that should all be worked out. just need to get the new tooltips in after 4.12 ships and then things should look much more normal!
oh! one last thingâ€¦ i did want to mention that i’ve been reading every comment posted here as well as any tweets that mention me and a handful of forum/reddit threads. i haven’t had time to directly respond to them unfortunately, but they’re definitely read and count for something!
Frequently Asked QuestionsÂ (last updated 2014.07.03 @ 15:05)
A)Â this turns out to be a fairly large question as there are a lot of reasonsâ€”the goal set for the changes hit a lot of things we’re hoping to explore/accomplish. to get the gist of it out up front, we want to create/improve the build foundations for mana-based champions. not just current kits that we ‘gate’ with mana, but also for a future in which we want to make mana more enjoyable/exciting (instead of it being like rationing out money to purchase food, imagine it being more like how to spend tokens at an arcade). some champions do this well on their own, but since a champion’s mana paradigm isn’t necessarily consistent across all kits there’s value in exploring systemic solutions to making mana much more interesting and meaningful.
of course, the ‘now’ is super important, so we’re doing this a piece at a time by exploring new ways to gain and spend mana in addition to your champion’s kit (which should already have awesome things like jayce’s shock blast through acceleration gate). the reason muramana is a candidate for this in addition to being a mana item is due to some issues with its current implementation (e.g., the item is most powerful when you don’t spend mana, but the reason a champion buys this is because they have really good ways to spend mana and they want to do that!) and because the item could stand to have more synergy/scaling with other items given its identity as a ‘late game’ item.
Q) which champions are intended to benefit from a change like this?
A)Â champions that care about heavily scaling their basic attacks throughout the game, and can also do cool things with their own abilities when they get a lot of mana. more specifically, this would apply to ezreal, corki, sivir, irelia, jayce, kog’maw,Â et al.
Q) what about current manamune/muramana users not in the above?
A)Â champions that tend to buy only one or two offensive items, and/or relyÂ very heavilyÂ on spells (in relation to their reliance on basic attacks) likely won’t appreciate the attack speed and are more guarded about their mana usage. that leaves champions like urgot and yorick feeling a little awkward about the changes as a whole. that said, the build path change, extra attack damage, and new on-hit damage should theoretically help them out more over the course of the game than the muramana on live. as an urgot player that works next to a yorick player, this is definitely something we’re watching.
Q) what can apply the true damage?
A)Â basic attacks, single-target spells that deal physical damage, and any other abilities that applies on-hit effects. this is more or less the same as live muramana, but notably excludes single-target spells that deal magic damage (e.g., ryze’s overload or syndra’s unleashed power). this is primarily a preventative measure to keep abuse cases (like adding 420 true damage to syndra’s ult) from restricting the other tuning levers we want to use to make sure the item feels good on champions that should like buying muramana for everything it does. we know there are collateral effects to this (such as jayce’s thundering blow no longer triggering the effect) so we’ll be watching for data related to those specific cases to make sure things are still just fine for those cases.
Hi. I wanted to try out the new function that should be listed below this box that says “show as flat” and see how the system works. I wanted to see if a conversation could be had using either or both of the views.
While we’re here! we’ll have a general ChampUp pow-wow. All casual, this is mainly just to test, but if you have any questions/ideas/feedback we can also jam on those. I’ll be on here for a little bit then head to bed. I’ll check the thread in the morning also.
Welp, I think he’s just a straight up fidelity update. I don’t think he’s slated for any time too soon, but at least I don’t think there’s a lot of challenge in just.. Mundo’ing up Mundo. Yeah, there’s just a lot of technical stuff I’d love to do with him. Bring him up to the goofy brute that he should be.
Yeah.. the “old guy” fantasy is a hard one to capture. I think there might have to be something in there that moves him more into the “cool mage” sorta area. It’s fine being wise and older, but he’s not quite up there with characters like Captain Picard, Professor X, Sauramon, Magneto, or other more aged gents of wisdom and badassery, Might have to dial him just a bit younger or just make him feel a bit more fit, not so much afro-santa guy..
Context: IronStylus mentioned awhile ago he was interested in updating Cho’Gath’s visuals. You can readÂ the discussionÂ here.
Well, we haven’t really even started concepting Cho, but he’ll have some pre-production work started on him soon. I still take the stance that I want him to be like a Kaiju of the Void. Whatever it entails to get that I’m up for! We have to scope it out though. That’s a big team discussion.
I’m not sure how much we’ll do with scaling or model changing in his normal state, though I’d like to see at least some body change. That’s just my opinion though! We haven’t yet full explored the ideas.
Yeah, there’s a lot of discussion around Kassadin. For one, we could sorta just plug a new model onto him, but.. is that enough? Technically we’re not really happy with where he’s at in a number of places, especially animation. So the discussion is centered around scope. Since he floats it’s sort of a unique situation. It’d be REALLY nice to have a full fledged VU of him, but, is that too large of a production? Lots of questions being asked. That’s sort of what’s making up the discussion.
Not really a list per se, more of just a general understanding that a lot of our textures need balancing. Right now there’s no one committed to doing TU’s 100%, my hope though would at some point to have a concentrated effort to adjust those textures.
Indeed, things have slowed down a bit. I’m not 100% up on the skinny, as you said I don’t work on the team really, but I think there’s a general desire to make sure things are super cohesive when a new champion comes out. I think that can take additional bake time. Aside from that I’m not privy to the nitty gritty of production, but I think one of the reasons Relaunch has become a bit more consistent is to help out the churning of new content. In some cases are team is pretty much making a new champion. My feeling is that things will always sort of be a hybrid of champions, skins and now relaunches as being integral parts of content packages.
I understand though. Champions are the biggest hype potential in terms of content, and can really have amazing promotional content, community discussion, and general excitement surround their build up and release. The champion release is still our biggest bang I feel. It feels like something huge is being added to the game, which it is.
For me personally, I miss some of the old days of slightly faster cadence, but I trust that the guys over on the Champion Team know what’s up and are fully aware of what their goals and deliverables are, and how fast those things should be put out.
– less overbumped threads about bugs
– people could track progress of any work
– Maybe RIOT could have an indicator about things that they began working on, but hasn’t finished it for a while, so they could pick up lost “threads” faster
– I’m PRETTY sure that disappointed players would complain a lot about ongoing things they don’t consider important, while other things are not prioritized
– With this, RIOT could have a good feedback about what they should work on first
– There will always be people who are dissatisfied with the current priority list
We have a lot of stuff in development at any time, and by far not everything makes it to release. A few big and known examples are Magma Chamber or the Mac client (back in 2011). We really try not to raise any false expectations.
Another thing, although it’s easier to solve but not trivial, is a lack of context. Many people don’t know that it can easily take us way over a year for just 1 champion in development. The way we think about skins has also changed. When I just started playing league (back in 2009), skins were mostly recolours or just a small change in the skin. Nowadays, the skins are really a way higher quality.
Changing a feature from a technical point of view is also a lot more complicated than just.. assign it to an engineer and have it changed the next day. We have a ton of stuff all going on at the same time, so that list would also be very, very huge. And not everything will be going to release. Not at all.
Then another point to consider is that players may not know the context. Not everyone will understand that making a skin takes more than a few days of work, or that rewriting a large piece of software (hello Client!, see PBE news!) also is a huge piece of work, that also has implications on back-end and server workings.
For me, I’d feel a big blocker for doing this would be raising false expectations, or players having expectations that we in the end don’t meet. Also think of it from an Ultimate Skin point of view. PulseFire Ezreal and Spirit Guard Udyr are awesome skins, and the release events were a super nice experience. But it would be a lot more boring for players if they would be aware of how those skins were coming along in the moments before release.
zerocontext: TL;DR: We definitely know some players care strongly about the Featured Matches on the current client landing page, and we’re still working on the experience!
Okay, here’s our general design philosophy behind how we want to surface content (both on the landing page and elsewhere, like the website): We want all players to have an easy and intuitive way of finding the experiences that they enjoy, which could of course include Featured Matches.
One complication is that only a slim percentage of playersÂ frequentlyÂ interact with Featured Matches, which doesn’t mesh well with how much visual space we give to them at present (which we could be devoting to other exciting features). So, we think a happy medium can exist in which players whoÂ docare about spectating high-skill matches have an easy way to do so, while players who care more about other experiences don’t face the distraction of an Ã¼ber-prominent Featured Matches area on the landing page. Again, we’re still exploring how this experience might work in the new design.
We think the new client landing page that’s heading to PBE (and the new tech supporting it) will be flexible enough to allow us to do a better job of serving up more experiences that more players find relevant. It’ll take us a bit of time to fine-tune our approach, though, so I hope you’ll bear with us… and continue giving us regular feedback as we work to improve the experience. Fortunately, you won’t have long to wait before you can start judging for yourself the success of our initial efforts! 🙂
I think LeBlanc’s low win rate and popularity in LCS is likely an example of high skill floor and high skill cap. I definitely wouldn’t say that LeBlanc is a weak champion because her win rate is below 50%. I think you’re right, that most players playing LeBlanc haven’t played the champion enough to get the most out of her. However, players that ARE very good at the champion make her very threatening.
An interesting way of thinking about this would be to look at how win rate for a champion changed with the number of games played with that champion. With LeBlanc, you might see that, once players had played 100 or so games, their win rate with LeBlanc is ~70% (controlling for ELO). On the other hand, once players had played 100 or so games with Garen, the win rate might only increase to 55%.
Garen’s average win rate might be higher and his win rate might be higher if you’ve only played 5-10 games with him (vs. LB), but I wouldn’t immediately conclude he was the stronger champ. For a player without much experience with either champ trying to optimize for a single game, maybe Garen is a better choice. But for a player thinking about choosing a champ to climb ranked with (or a pro-team figuring out a comp) maybe LB is stronger. What do you think?
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