Archive

Posts Tagged ‘new champion select’

PBE Round-up: Patch 6.1

January 7th, 2016

 

PBE Roundup Patch 6 1 Banner

Patch 6.1 will hit live in the early hours of Wednesday, January 13th, assuming there are no delays. If you’re from the NA or TR region, you’ll be able to early-test the new Champion Select.

 

Patch 6.1

Store Content

Balance

Miscellaneous

 

 

CHALLENGER NIDALEE Banner

Challenger Nidalee is a legacy skin and will cost 975 RP.

 

Nidalee_Splash_8 Nidalee_8

 

ALL SPELLS

 

 

MODEL Banner

Challenger Nidalee Model 1 Challenger Nidalee Model 2

Challenger Nidalee Model 3 Challenger Nidalee Model 4

 

Recall Banner

Challenger Nidalee Recall 1 Challenger Nidalee Recall 2

 

PROWL PASSIVE Banner

Challenger Nidalee Passive 1 Challenger Nidalee Passive 2

 

JAVELIN TOSS HUMAN Q Banner

Challenger Nidalee Q 1 Challenger Nidalee Q 2

 

BUSHWHACK HUMAN W Banner

Challenger Nidalee W Human 1 Challenger Nidalee W Human 2

 

PRIMAL SURGE HUMAN E Banner

Challenger Nidalee E 1 Challenger Nidalee E 2

 

TAKEDOWN COUGAR Q Banner

Challenger Nidalee Cougar Q 1 Challenger Nidalee Cougar Q 2

 

POUNCE COUGAR W Banner

Challenger Nidalee W 1 Challenger Nidalee W 2

 

SWIPE COUGAR E Banner

Challenger Nidalee Cougar E 1 Challenger Nidalee Cougar E 2

 

ASPECT OF THE COUGAR R

Challenger Nidalee R 1 Challenger Nidalee R 4

Challenger Nidalee R 2 Challenger Nidalee R 3

 

 

LUNAR WRAITH CAITLYN Banner

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn is a legacy skin and will be available for 1350 RP.

 

Caitlyn_Splash_10 Caitlyn_10

 

ALL SPELLS

 

MODEL Banner

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Model 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Model 2

 

Recall Banner

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Recall 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Recall 2

 

BASIC ATTACK ANIMATION Banner

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Auto Attack 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Auto Attack 2

 

HEADSHOT PASSIVE

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Headshot 2 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Headshot

 

PILTOVER PEACEMAKER Q

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Q 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn Q 2

 

YORDLE SNAP TRAP W

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn W 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn W 2

 

90 CALIBER NET E

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn E 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn E 2

 

ACE IN THE HOLE R

Lunar Wraith Caitlyn R 1 Lunar Wraith Caitlyn R 2

 

 

LUNAR WRAITH MORGANA Banner

Lunar Wraith Morgana is a legacy skin and will be available for 975 RP.

 

Morgana_Splash_10 Morgana_10

 

ALL SPELLS

 

MODEL Banner

Lunar Wraith Morgana Updated Model 1 Lunar Wraith Morgana Updated Model 2

 

Recall Banner

Lunar Wraith Morgana Recall 1 Lunar Wraith Morgana Recall 2

 

BASIC ATTACK ANIMATION Banner

Lunar Wraith Morgana Auto Attack 1 Lunar Wraith Morgana Auto Attack 2

 

DARK BINDING Q

Lunar Wraith Morgana Q 1 Lunar Wraith Morgana Q 2

 

TORMENTED SOIL W

Lunar Wraith Morgana W 1

 

BLACK SHIELD E

Lunar Wraith Morgana E 1

 

SOUL SHACKLES R

Lunar Wraith Morgana R 1 Lunar Wraith Morgana R 2

 

 

RADIANT WUKONG Banner

Radiant Wukong is NOT a legacy skin and will be available for 1350 RP.

 

MonkeyKing_Splash_5 MonkeyKing_5

 

ALL SPELLS

 

MODEL Banner

Radiant Wukong Model 1 Updated Radiant Wukong Model 2 Updated

 

Recall Banner

Radiant Wukong Recall 1 Radiant Wukong Recall 2

 

HOMEGUARD MOVE ANIMATION Banner


CRUSHING BLOW Q

Radiant Wukong Q 1 Radiant Wukong Q 2

 

DECOY W

Radiant Wukong W 1 Radiant Wukong W 2

 

NIMBUS STRIKE E

Radiant Wukong E 1 Radiant Wukong E 2

 

CYCLONE R

Radiant Wukong R 1 Radiant Wukong R 2

 
 

Rising Dawn Ward Skin Banner

This monkey-themed ward skin will be available for 640 RP in the store after Patch 6.1 hits live:

 

Rising Dawn Ward Skin 3 Rising Dawn Ward Skin 2

 

Rising Dawn Ward Skin 1

 

 
 

New Summoner Icons

Four new Lunar-themed summoner icons will be available in the store, presumably for 250 RP each:

 

Lunar Icon 3 Lunar Icon 1 Lunar Icon 2 lunar icon 4

 

Patch 6.1 will also bring team icons for the upcoming season. These will cost 250 RP and, like always, a portion of the profits will go to the respective teams:

 

OCE (Oceania):

profileIcon990 profileIcon991 profileIcon992 profileIcon993

profileIcon994 profileIcon995 profileIcon996 profileIcon997

 

Russia (Wildcard):

profileIcon999 profileIcon1000 profileIcon1001 profileIcon1002

profileIcon1003 profileIcon1004 profileIcon1005

 

LMS:

profileIcon1006 profileIcon1007 profileIcon1008

profileIcon1009 profileIcon1010 profileIcon1011

 

NA LCS:

profileIcon1012 profileIcon1014 profileIcon1015 profileIcon1016 profileIcon1017

profileIcon1018 profileIcon1019 profileIcon1020 profileIcon1021

 

EU LCS:

profileIcon1022 profileIcon1023 profileIcon1024 profileIcon1025 profileIcon1026

profileIcon1027 profileIcon1028 profileIcon1029 profileIcon1030 profileIcon1031

 

LAN:

profileIcon1032 profileIcon1033 profileIcon1034

profileIcon1035 profileIcon1036 profileIcon1037

 

LAS:

profileIcon1038 profileIcon1039 profileIcon1040

profileIcon1041 profileIcon1042 profileIcon1043

 

LCK:

profileIcon1044 profileIcon1045 profileIcon1046 profileIcon1047 profileIcon1048

profileIcon1049 profileIcon1050 profileIcon1051 profileIcon1052 profileIcon1053

 

LPL:

profileIcon1083 profileIcon1084 profileIcon1085 profileIcon1086 profileIcon1087 profileIcon1088

profileIcon1089 profileIcon1090 profileIcon1091 profileIcon1092 profileIcon1093 profileIcon1082

 

Brazil (Wildcard):

profileIcon1065 profileIcon1066 profileIcon1067 profileIcon1068

profileIcon1069 profileIcon1070 profileIcon1071 profileIcon1072

 

Turkey (Wildcard):

profileIcon1073 profileIcon1074 profileIcon1075 profileIcon1076 profileIcon1094

profileIcon1077 profileIcon1078 profileIcon1079 profileIcon1080 profileIcon1095

 

 

Champion Changes

 

Brand Final Portrait

 

Nerf Box Pyroclasm Final IconPyroclasm [ R ]

  • Bugfix: No longer prioritizes Champions over minions when those Champions aren’t affected by Brand’s passive.

 

 

Fiddlesticks-Final-Portrait (1)

 

Buff BoxDark Wind Final IconDark Wind [ E ]

  • Mana cost decreased from 50/70/90/110/130 to 50/60/70/80/90.

 

 

 

Gangplank-Final-Champion-Portrait (1)

 

Nerf BoxTrial by Fire Final IconTrial by Fire [ Passive ]

  • Bonus AD ratio decreased from 1.2 to 1;
  • DoT duration increased from 1.5 seconds to 2.5 (same damage).

 

 

Kalista Final Portrait

 

Change BoxRend [ E ]Rend Final Icon

  • Mana cost decreased from 40 at all ranks to 30;
  • No longer refunds any mana when Rend kills its first target. Subsequent kills still refund the full cost (30).

 

 

Khazix Final Portrait

 

Quality of Life Box FinalUnseen Threat Final IconUnseen Threat [ Passive ]

  • The animation for Kha’Zix’s buffed auto-attacks has been sped up to match the speed of his regular attacks (currently slower on live).

 

Buff BoxVoid Spike Final IconVoid Spike [ W ]

  • AoE range increased from 225 to 275.

 


Buff BoxLeap Final IconLeap [ E ]

  • Range increased from 600 to 700.

 

 

 

LeBlanc Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxEthereal Chains Final Icon (1)Ethereal Chains [ E ]

  • Missile speed increased from 1600 to 1750.

 

 

 

Miss Fortune Final Portrait

 


Nerf BoxLove Tap Final IconLove Taps [ Passive ]

  • AD ratio decreased from 0.6 – 1, to 0.5 – 1 (scales with level);
  • AD ratio against minions decreased from 0.3 – 0.5 to 0.25 – 0.5.


Nerf BoxMake it Rain Final IconMake it Rain [ E ]

  • Base Damage decreased from 90/145/200/225/310 to 80/115/150/185/220.

 

 

 

Mordekaiser Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxIron Man Final Icon (1)Iron Man [ Passive ]

  • Shield decay decreased from 2%-per-second to 1.5%.

 

 

Buff BoxHarvester of Sorrow Final IconHarvester of Sorrow [ W ]

  • The spell can now be cast on minions and allows Mordekaiser to proc the “touching” damage on the aura.

 
[ Note ] The aura’s size is much larger if cast on siege minions:

Morde W 3 Morde W 1 Morde W 2

 

Change BoxChildren of the Grave Final IconChildren of the Grave [ R ]

  • Now deals 25% of its damage instantly, decreased from 50% (total damage unchanged, now deals 75% of its damage over-time, changed from 50%)
  • Bonus AD on Ghost changed from 10/25/50 flat to [ 1.0 of Mordekaiser’s Bonus AD ].

 

 

Teemo Final Champion Portrait

GENERAL Banner

  • Base Attack Damage increased from 47.5 to 49.5.

 

Change BoxCamouflage Final IconCamouflage [ Passive ]

  • Time to stealth in brush increased from 0.75 seconds to 1.5;
  • Teemo can now stealth while moving in a brush.

 

Buff BoxNoxious Trap Final IconNoxious Trap [ R ]

  • Cast range increased from 300/600/900 to 400/650/900.

 

 

 

Trundle-Final-Portrait (1)

 

Nerf BoxPillar-of-Ice-Final-Icon (1) (1)Pillar of Ice [ E ]

  • Mana cost increased from 60 at all ranks to 75.

 

 

Nerf BoxSubjugate-Final-Icon (1) (1)Subjugate [ R ]

  • Cooldown increased from 80/70/60 seconds to 110/90/70;
  • Mana cost increased from 75 at all ranks to 100.

 

 

 

Item-Changes1 (1)

 

Buff BoxDeaths Dance Final IconDeath’s Dance

  • Heal on unique passive increased from 12% of damage dealt to 15%;
  • Damage converted to bleed (DoT) increased from 12% to 15%;
  • Attack Damage increased from 65 to 75;
  • Recipe cost increased from 525 Gold to 625 (total cost increased from 3400 Gold to 3500).

 

Change BoxEye of the Oasis Final IconEye of the Oasis

  • Now additionally grants 10% Cooldown Reduction;
  • Bonus Mana Regeneration decreased from 150% to 100%.

 

Change BoxEye of the Watchers Final IconEye of the Watchers

  • Now additionally grants 10% Cooldown Reduction;
  • Bonus Mana Regeneration decreased from 150% to 100%;

 

Nerf BoxFarsight Alteration Final IconFarsight Alteration

  • Decreases cooldown of Warding Totem by 33%, decreased from 50% [the values are near-identical because of the Warding Totem buff]

 

Change BoxFrost Queens Claim Final IconFrost Queen’s Claim

  • Mana Regeneration decreased from 150% to 100%;
  • Ghost slow now lasts 2-5 seconds (increase with distance), changed from 4 seconds flat;

 

Buff BoxLord Dominik Final IconLord Dominik’s Regards

  • Bonus Armor Penetration increased from 40% to 45%.

 

 

Quality of Life Box FinalLudens Echo Final IconLuden’s Echo

  • UNIQUE Passive is now called “Echo”, to prevent it from stacking with the passive on Runic Echoes (new jungle AP enchantment)

 

Buff BoxMortal Reminder Final IconMortal Reminder

  • Bonus Armor Penetration increased from 40% to 45%.

 

 

Buff BoxPhantom Dancer Final IconPhantom Dancer

  • Now additionally grants 5% bonus Movement Speed;
  • Bonus Movement Speed while in 500 range of an enemy Champion decreased from 12% to 7%.

 

Nerf BoxRapid Firecannon Final IconRapid Firecannon

  • Bonus Movement Speed decreased from 8% to 7%.

 

 

Buff BoxRunaans Hurricane Final IconRunaan’s Hurricane

  • Bonus Movement Speed increased from 5% to 7%.

 

 

Buff BoxStatikk_ShivStatikk Shiv

  • Now deals 120% bonus damage to minions, increased from 75%.

 

 

Buff BoxSunfire-Cape-Final-Icon (1)Sunfire Cape

  • Armor increased from 45 to 50.

 

 

Buff BoxWarding Totem Final IconWarding Totem

  • Cooldown decreased from 180/120 seconds (scales down with level) to 180/90.

 

 

 

Jungle Changes Banner

 

New Item BoxMagus-Enchantment-Final-Icon (1) (1)Enchantment: Runic Echoes (replaces Runeglaive)

Grants 60 Ability Power and 10% bonus to Movement Speed;

UNIQUE Passive – Echo: Gain charges upon moving or casting. At 100 charges, the next spell hit expends all charges to deal 80 [+0.1 AP] bonus magic damage to up to 4 targets.

This effect deals 2.5X damage to Large Monsters. Hitting a Large Monster with this effect will restore 18% of your missing Mana.

 

Runic Echoes Item

 

Buff BoxHunters Talisman Final IconHunter’s Talisman

  • Mana regeneration while in the jungle increased from 150% to 180%.

 

[ Note ] This also applies to Skirmisher’s Sabre, Stalker’s Blade and Tracker’s Knife.

 

Rift Herald Final IconRift Herald

  • Auto-attack damage increased from 95 to 105.

 

 

MASTERY CHANGES Banner

 

Nerf BoxPrecision Final IconPrecision [ Tier 5 Cunning ]

  • Armor penetration decreased from 1/2/3/4/5 [+ 0.1/0.2/0.3/0.4/0.5 per level] to 0.6/1.2/1.8/2.4/3 + [0.06/0.12/0.18/0.24/0.3 per level]

 

 

FEROCITY KEYSTONE MASTERIES Banner

 

Buff BoxDeathfires Touch Final IconDeathfire Touch [ Keystone Ferocity ]

  • Ratios increased from [ +0.5 Bonus AD ] [ +0.2 AP ] to [ +0.6 Bonus AD ] [ +0.25 AP ].

 

 

Buff BoxFervor of Battle Final IconFervor of Battle [ Keystone Ferocity ]

  • Bonus physical damage on auto-attack per stack increased from 1-8 (scales with Champion level) to 1-12;
  • Max stacks decreased from 10 to 8 (max on-hit physical damage increased from 80 to 96).

 

Change BoxWarlords Bloodlust Final IconWarlord’s Bloodlust [ Keystone Ferocity ]

  • Heal changed from 15% of crit damage against Champions to 5-25% (scales with level);
  • Attack Speed bonus increased from 20% to 30% (for 4 seconds).

 

RESOLVE KEYSTONE MASTERIES Banner

 

Change BoxBond of Stone Final IconBond of Stone [ Keystone Resolve ]

  • Flat damage reduction increased from 3% to 4%;
  • Additionally, 6% of the damage taken by your closest ally from enemy Champions is dealt to you;
  • No longer gives 6% Damage Reduction when near an allied Champion.

 

Buff BoxStrength of the Ages Final IconStrength of the Ages [ Keystone Resolve ]

  • When capped, Strength of Ages now heals for 6% of your Maximum Health for both Siege Minions and large jungle monsters, changed from healing for 100 flat Health per Siege Minion kill.”

 

CUNNING KEYSTONE MASTERIES Banner

 

Buff BoxStormraiders Surge Final IconStormraider’s Surge [ Keystone Cunning ]

  • Movement speed buff increased from 35% to 40%;
  • Duration to trigger the buff extended from 2 seconds to 2.5;
  • Now additionally grants 75% slow resistance for 3 seconds after proccing the buff.

 

 

NEW CHAMPION SELECT Banner

The New Champion Select is almost ready for live. It will follow a staggered release, with public testing for NA and TR beginning on January 13th. Below you can find a rundown of how the new system will work:

[ Note ] The new Champion Select will replace Team Builder. [ Source ]

 

Before you queue, you’ll be asked to pick your Primary and Secondary role. Logically, your Primary role takes priority in the matchmaking:

New Champ Select 1 New Champ Select 2

 

The queue interface is standard fair. The wait time is displayed at the bottom, rather than the top of the client and there are new visuals for the ticking time confirmation:

New Champ Select 3 New Champ Select 4

 

Inside the Champion Select, you’ll be placed on a 3D map of Summoner’s Rift, with an arrow-type indicator for your role:

New Champ Select 18 New Champ Select 5

 

I was Captain here, so I couldn’t ban. Instead, I could give a visual cue to teammates of what I wanted to play. This phase is a suggestive “I want to play this, please don’t ban it” type – if my teammates wanted to, they could’ve banned Yasuo, but I’ve shown them I want to play that Champion.

New Champ Select 7 New Champ Select 6

 

There’s a neat animation for bans, where the banned Champion’s portrait will disintegrate into shards. Here’s how it looks like for both allied bans and enemy bans:

New Champ Select 9 New Champ Select 8

 

Once banning is complete, picking resumes as is currently on live. The Champions picked (or hovered over) will be displayed in a circular shape. Once selected, they will play their Champ Select quote for everyone:

New Champ Select 12 New Champ Select 14

 

Here’s how the interface looks like if the player hasn’t picked a Champion yet, for both ally and enemy-side:

New Champ Select 15 New Champ Select 16

 

Once picking concludes, you can lock in your Champion or pick a different one. There’s also a new interface for your available skins:

New Champ Select 11 New Champ Select 10

 

The last part of Champion Select is a standard wait period to adjust your Masteries. Note the location of UI elements:

  • Bans at the top left and right;
  • 2D map with Roles and Champions picked on the bottom right;
  • Summoner Spells/Masteries on the bottom.

New Champ Select 17

 

 

TWEAKS TO DRAGON TRAINER LULU

Dragon Trainer Lulu has received new, brighter textures, presumably to fit better with the visuals of Dragon Trainer Tristana.

 

Dragon Trainer Lulu Model 2 Dragon Trainer Lulu Model 1

 

 

NEW Q VISUALS FOR DRAVEN SKINS

Soul Reaver Draven and Gladiator Draven have both received new visuals for the landing zones on their Spinning Axes [ Q ]:

 

Draven Skin Q 1 Draven Skin Q 2



A new login theme has been released to celebrate the start of the new season. Here’s the video by frostyNinja:

 

And here’s the still from the animation:

Season 6 Background

 

 

JAPANESE LOCALIZATION Banner

The Japanese localization is near-concluded and all the voice-overs, text and audio files will be released with Patch 6.1. Note that if you want to use the Japanese localization, you can select it from your launcher post-patch.

 

Japan Screenshot

 

Japan Screen 2 Screen 3

Screen 6 Screen 4

Screen 7 Screen 8

 

[ Note ] You can find all the voice-overs on SkinSpotlights‘s second channel, League Voices.

 

[ Note ] You can find all the Japanese Champion Select quotes HERE:

PBE 06 01 Banner

 


If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

New Champion Select Live Testing Banner

The new Champion Select is almost here; it will replace Team Builder and will be available for early testing for NA and TR:

 

New champ select replaces Team Builder

Lyte Final PortraitTLDR: When new champ select goes live in your region, it will replace the Team Builder queue.

Since introducing the experimental Team Builder queue back in 2013, we’ve been analyzing and rethinking the best way to get into a game of League. The lessons we learned from the Team Builder queue directly impacted the development of new champ select.

We’d originally planned to adopt Team Builder across all queues, but as our first attempt at improving the experience of starting a League match, a few issues held us back. While Team Builder successfully empowered individual players to choose the champ they wanted in the role they wanted each time, it wasn’t as good at helping teams assemble a specific strategy or composition. Building a Yasuo-based knock-up comp or a classic Orianna-oriented wombo combo was damn hard when non-premade players pre-selected their champs. Long queue times made turning down champions that didn’t fit while waiting for your team’s missing piece feel even worse.

With new champ select, we’ve solved the issues we found with Team Builder. Teams get on the same page and start working together through pick intent and distributed bans right from the start. You’re guaranteed to get one of the two positions you prefer, and you can use pick intent to let your team know who you’re looking to play before bans and picks take place.

We ultimately decided to disable the Team Builder queue because we believe new champ select is a better answer to many of the problems we were trying to solve with Team Builder, and in the future we’ll introduce a version of blind pick inspired by the new design for players who are looking for the new champ select experience without bans or drafting.

New champ select goes live in NA & TR for testing in Normal Draft and Ranked on January 13, 2016. If everything goes well, we’ll continue to roll out new champ select in other territories over the following days. Thanks to everyone who gave us feedback along the way to this launch, from the original Team Builder beta to the recent PBE testing. We’re excited to take this next step into League’s future, and we can’t wait to join you in new champ select.

[ Link to Post ]


Below you can find a preview of the new Champion Select:

 

Before you queue, you’ll be asked to pick your Primary and Secondary role. Logically, your Primary role takes priority in the matchmaking:

New Champ Select 1 New Champ Select 2

 

The queue interface is standard fair. The wait time is displayed at the bottom, rather than the top of the client and there are new visuals for the ticking time confirmation:

New Champ Select 3 New Champ Select 4

 

Inside the Champion Select, you’ll be placed on a 3D map of Summoner’s Rift, with an arrow-type indicator for your role:

New Champ Select 18 New Champ Select 5

 
I was Captain here, so I couldn’t ban. Instead, I could give a visual cue to teammates of what I wanted to play. This phase is a suggestive “I want to play this, please don’t ban it” type – if my teammates wanted to, they could’ve banned Yasuo, but I’ve shown them I want to play that Champion.

New Champ Select 7 New Champ Select 6

 

There’s a neat animation for bans, where the banned Champion’s portrait will disintegrate into shards. Here’s how it looks like for both allied bans and enemy bans:

New Champ Select 9 New Champ Select 8

 

Once banning is complete, picking resumes as is currently on live. The Champions picked (or hovered over) will be displayed in a circular shape. Once selected, they will play their Champ Select quote for everyone:

New Champ Select 12 New Champ Select 14

 

Here’s how the interface looks like if the player hasn’t picked a Champion yet, for both ally and enemy-side:

New Champ Select 15 New Champ Select 16

 

Once picking concludes, you can lock in your Champion or pick a different one. There’s also a new interface for your available skins:

New Champ Select 11 New Champ Select 10

 

The last part of Champion Select is a standard wait period to adjust your Masteries. Note the location of UI elements:

  • Bans at the top left and right;
  • 2D map with Roles and Champions picked on the bottom right;
  • Summoner Spells/Masteries on the bottom.

New Champ Select 17

 


If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

QA New Champ Select banner

[ Note ] You can find a preview of the new Champion Select on the PBE HERE.

 

 

Lyte Final PortraitHey all,

Lyte here. Last week we shared the new champ select for the first time. For the next couple of hours, the design team behind the feature will be here to answer all your champ select questions.

Here’s who’s hanging out with me:

Daniel “ryedan” Balmert, Kam “boourns” Fung, and Eric “Socrates” Kenna. Come ask us anything you want about the design, the visuals, or experience of the new champ select!

EDIT ::: Team’s going to grab some lunch! May drop by here and there to answer some remaining questions. Thanks for stopping by!

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Do you think the visual changes will distract from functionality testing

Lyte Final PortraitWe’re planning some deep dives and behind the scenes looks at the building of the new Champ Select, and our initial testing was actually with these ugly (sorry boourns!) prototypes that just had grey boxes and words. This is called UX lab testing in the games industry, and allows design teams to focus feedback and testing on the actual functional experience of the system and not be distracted by the polish of fancy visuals or animations. It’s only until pretty far in the project until you start adding in the stuff that makes the system look like magic.

The Champ Select quotes being played was actually a spontaneous idea by RiotBahamut. He was tinkering with the Champ Select and thought it would be cool, and the team instantly loved how it felt. We’re aware there could be some trolling or spammy experiences, but we think the overall value would be worthwhile. In fact, we’d love to add some more easter eggs to the system…

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Wont showing what Champ you want to play before bans encourage trolling

Ryedan Final PortraitBans are important. In the live version of Draft, the captain has the opportunity to use 3 bans to troll his teammates. Each ban used to “troll” allies means that some dangerous, high value champ is left on the table. The distribution of bans makes it so when you DO have someone trolling, their power is contained to a single ban.

Also, you don’t have to declare a champion intent if you don’t want. Something I pitched to Lyte was having the 6 roles (Tank, Mage, Assassin, Fighter, Support, Marksman) available in the champion grid as an option instead of declaring a specific champion, so you could be like “We have a Fiddlesticks jungle and we have a Leona bot, I think I should play a fighter top to round out the comp, but I’m not sure which one.”

What do you guys think?

[ Link to Post ]

 

Follow Up Banner

Lyte Final PortraitActually, we saw something pretty weird in our playtests with Distributed Bans and Pick Intent. Because every single player now has a powerful “choice” in Champ Select (whether it’s a ban, or the top 2 picks), it actually reduced trolling of Pick Intent. So basically, players were far less likely to ban a Pick Intent (unless they thought it was a S-tier champion or something) because they knew that if they pissed off their teammates, their teammates could reverse-troll them with their powerful choice.

If you’re super worried about trolling in Pick Intent either way, you can always let the timer run out and not choose any champs at all and display a blank helmet icon.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

It seems the new Champ Select will make it easier to distribute team roles

Socrates New PortraitOne of our goals with the new champ select was to formalize a lot of communication to make it easier to get on the same page with your team quickly. Ultimately we believe this will let players focus on strategy instead of just trying to figure out positions.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

When will the new Champ Select go live in EUW

Lyte Final PortraitWe’d like to do some pre-season testing on NA and TR first, and if things are going well, we’ll rapidly roll it out globally.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 


Why do you do all your testing on NA

Lyte Final PortraitWe see this question a lot, so going to jump in even though it’s late in the thread. When we choose to test new systems and features, it has everything to do with timezone. Although some teams work in multiple offices around the world, 100% of our team works in the LA office which means we prefer to choose a test server that has a timezone that does NOTcompletely wreck our sleep schedules.

You generally want to turn on a new feature or system during off-peak hours, say 6 AM, and then monitor it for about 24 hours at a time. By choosing NA, we can basically wake up and sleep at an OK time which is far less exhausting for the team.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Could you do a breakdown of how long every step of Champ Select will take

Socrates New PortraitI felt the same way with the old experience, Drafting can feel like it takes a long time and we definitely didn’t want to make it take longer. In our testing so far we’ve seen champ selects move slightly faster. The biggest change that impacts this is requiring champion selections to be locked in instead of it being possible to idle on a champ selection and have it auto lock at the end.

This is what it looks like from old to new:

Old Champ Select:

  • Ban Phase: 60s per ban (360s total)
  • Pick Phase: 60s per pick (360s total) *Remember, 2 players pick at once sometimes
  • Resolution/Trades Phase: 60s
  • Total: 780s potential cap

New Champ Select:

  • Position Assignment: ~4s
  • Planning Phase: ~35s
  • Ban Phase: 40s per ban (240s total)
  • Pick Phase: 40s per pick (400s total)
  • Resolution/Trades Phase: 40s
  • Total: 720s potential cap

The above is subject to changes based on testing.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will a lobby vote to kick players from Champ Select ever be implemented

Boourns New PortraitWe expect that the new champion select experience will greatly reduce these kinds of situations. We’re going to look at our metrics after release and see if there’s value in attacking the problem more.

That said, we don’t think vote kick is a great way to solve the problem. If we do work around negative champion select behavior it will be more around reporting that behavior after you dodge. Vote kick just has too many negative side effects (it may actually increase bullying of off-meta champion picks for example).

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will we have the option of creating a custom pool of Champions

Ryedan Final PortraitIt’s always a cost vs benefit issue, but we’re willing to look at the benefit. Something we’ve kicked around is having your top X (5?) played champions stickied to the top of the champion grid (for easy access). We want to use something smart that doesn’t require management, otherwise it’s unlikely to get adopted (and therefore deliver any value) to many players. Item sets are great for power users, but we didn’t see as much use as we thought. It’s great for those couple of people that really use it, but we could have brought something much more useful to more players.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will we be able to show what Champion we want to play only to teammates

Boourns New PortraitThis is something we’re looking at adding, although I don’t know if it will be in the initial release. Personally I’d love to be able to bring the champion grid back up during picks and bans so I can convey up-to-date information to my team.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 


So is it impossible now to wait the timer out without banning a Champion

Lyte Final PortraitNo, we’ve intentionally removed the ability to let the timer run out to lock in a Pick, or skip a Ban. When you’re in a team with strangers, skipping a ban is a confusing and frustrating experience for the rest of the team (and they often misunderstand it as the Captain being AFK). If you really want the challenge of skipping bans, grab 4 friends and join Dynamic Queue as a Premade of 5 and ban random champions.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

When will the new Champion Select go live

Lyte Final PortraitTo be honest, we’re not sure when we’re going to go live yet. We have some polish we’d like to do, maybe a new feature or two, and have one nasty bug we need to fix before the Ranked 2016 Season. The team would love to do another PBE test, and potentially a roll out to NA and TR before the Ranked 2016 Season begins to iron out any further kinks, but we’re working around the clock right now and it’s hard to predict when each of these pieces will finish.

 

 

Will people be able to see the Masteries of teammates in Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitRight now, there are no plans to allow everyone to see your Champion Mastery in Champ Select. We may re-visit this in the future though, and would just have to balance out the negative behaviors that were created. For example, in a distant future when we have more than 5 levels of Champion Mastery, maybe we only show Champion Mastery only when you are Level 10 or higher–this is a significant investment, and something “cool” to show you’re a master with a champion.

However, Level 10 might be a lofty, challenging goal. If we decided to show, say Level 2 Champ Mastery or higher, it would create an immediate perception that if you WEREN’T showing Champ Mastery with a champ, that you shouldn’t play Ranked at all. We’re aware some players would love this type of “gate” on who you can play in Ranked, but it’s not something we’re going to consider today because there are more important issues to improve in Ranked Mode.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will we be able to choose and buy champion ward skins in the new Champ Select

Lyte Final PortraitYes! This is a feature we’re still working on, but didn’t finish by the first PBE release.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 


Why did you choose the last three people to ban instead of the first three

Lyte Final Portraitboourns remembers the crazy testing we had to do with Distributed Bans. At the beginning, we actually had Players 1, 2, 3, get the bans, then Players 4 and 5 get 1st and 2nd pick. However, this was super confusing to players in the testing because they already had yearsof prior experience of picks “starting” from the top of the team. So, we swapped it the current format where Players 3, 4, 5 get the bans, then we “reset” into Pick Phase and start from the top. This was much clearer for current players of the game, so we stuck with it.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Did you consider adding Summoner Icon Select to the new Champ Select

Lyte Final PortraitThis is a tricky situation. Your summoner icon isn’t really shown in champ select (unless you count the load screen). Let’s be honest – as your ally, I care more about what you’re playing than what your icon is in champ select.

Now, being able to choose icons, ward skins, skins, chromas, finishers etc. all together AFTER I’ve selected my champion is a feature set we’re considering.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will the new Champ Select replace Team Builder or will it be a separate queue

Lyte Final PortraitWhen we started this project, we always felt like this was the “end-game” of Team Builder. We’re actually considering closing down the old Team Builder queue, and slowly replacing many of the queues with this new Champ Select experience. So, the Ranked 2016 Season will just have this new Champ Select experience as its queue, and in the future, Normal Draft will just be this new Champ Select experience.

[ Link to Post ]

 

Follow Up Banner

Lyte Final PortraitAll the testing so far has suggested that the new Champ Select is the best possible League experience, so we’re considering sunsetting the old Team Builder.

We’d also like to replace some of the other queue experiences (like Normal Draft and Ranked) with this new Champ Select experience.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What steps are being taken against pre game negativity

Boourns New PortraitThe design of the new champion select experience is specifically aimed at reducing conflict in champion select, we think that setting the right environment up for cooperation and communication is the best safeguard against toxic champion select behavior. Your specific example is incredibly rare, even right now, and if it’s a pattern of behavior that player will already be punished by existing systems.

That said we have some designs in our backlog for reporting pre-game toxicity. We’re going to see how negative behavior in champion select looks after release and decide if it’s valuable to do something like pre-game reports (we’re hoping there will be so little it won’t be necessary).

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why not let 5 people pick 5 bans instead of only giving 3 bans to 3 players

Ryedan Final PortraitOne other reason is because it would make it harder for fresh level 30s to transition into ranked. You need to own 10 (# players in game) + 6 (# of bans) champions. Newer players would be forced to unlock 20 total champions (instead of 16), which might deter more people from trying it.

That’s in addition to the other diversity reasons.

[ Link to Post ]

 

Follow Up Banner

Isnt it a good thing to restrict Ranked to level 30players only

Ryedan Final PortraitThere’s no such thing as “not ready for ranked” as far as skill. The spectrum of Bronze to Challenger covers everyone. The reason we have the level 30 cap is to make sure you’re not playing against people who have access to raw stat advantages over you.

I don’t know what the plans are regarding increasing the ban count, but it’s a heavy issue. If you could ban 5 chess pieces, we’d have all pawns. On the flip side, zero bans means that the absolute best options will be picked 100% of the time, leading to stagnation in picks (first pick always gets queen).

You need to maintain a comfortable amount of bans that permits something powerful left on the board, while still allowing the player-base to deny commonly accepted “OP” picks. You need fewer bans than “must picks” in order for bans to mean anything, otherwise it’s just a false choice.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

So its possible that 5 strangers can be matched against 5 premades

Boourns New PortraitWe prioritize matching the same size groups against each other. It may happen that a premade 5 gets matched against solos, but it should be very rare based on our simulations using live data. We’ll know more when we look at real matches post release. If it’s happening too often we’ll take measures to make sure we’re getting fair matches.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Is it possible to pass the ban to someone else or just skip a ban

Ryedan Final PortraitI like the idea in principal – both sides still get the same ban # and everyone is happy. However, I think this goes against one of our pillars when re-designing the champion select screen – Clarity on what’s happening now and who’s going next. If people can pass on bans, shuffle them down and move actions around, it gets hard for someone to understand what’s going on. For example, who gets your ban? how many seconds do you have to discard your ban? If a person thinks they aren’t banning then suddenly they are “granted” a ban, it might be weird.

If you don’t know who to ban or don’t care, ban Yorick. It will make Lyte mad because he likes to play him.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Youre forcing one trick ponies in Ranked to climb using at least two roles

Lyte Final PortraitThis is a pretty common misunderstanding in Ranked play today. On average, players are only proficient at about 2.2 positions today. In fact, as you go higher in skill, you become more specialized in particular positions. However, we have some ideas to actually encourage players to master multiple positions beyond 2, and potentially reward players for truly being a master of all positions in League.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

How does the new system distribute players who picked the same roles

Boourns New PortraitIf you’re in a premade party the system prevents this. You must have party size + 1 unique positions selected. So if you’re duo you can’t go bot/supp, supp/bot. Instead you must have one more unique position.

If you’re soloing the system will prefer to give you your primary choice when possible.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What if your pick order was based on the team role you picked

Boourns New PortraitWe wouldn’t do pick order based on your position because it would betray to the other team where each champion was going. This was something we looked at earlier, but didn’t do because part of the strategic fun of draft is being able to fake out the other team with a flex pick like lulu. By having assigned positions we already think it will be likely that you will get the champion you want even if you’re last pick. BTW last pick also has power because it allows you to counter-pick your lane matchup.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Heres a suggestion can you let us communicate during Loading Screen

Boourns New PortraitRegarding loading screen chat: you’re not the only one who would love that feature! It’s difficult to do because, frankly, there’s not a lot loaded in the loading screen (including chat)! 😀 There are no shortage of people here who would love to see it happen, it just hasn’t so far.

[ Link to Post ]

 



If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

Red Posts 06 11 Banner

 

Topics Banner

 

Recent News Banner

PBE 05 11 Banner

Reds 05 11 Banner

 

 

Will skins in the future be delayed past their relevant event

KateyKhaos Final PortraitWe’ve stated that we’ve got some stuff planned for Snowdown. In a case like that, yes, skins would be held for that event. There will still be instances where you won’t see a champion skin for a bit due to them being a part of an event/group of skins that will be released.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What’s the status of Shens rework

Shen Banner Single

Meddler Final PortraitIt’s high ish on our list of smaller reworks (smaller as in some gameplay changes, with visual/audio changes as needed to support those, rather than a full relaunch). Marksmen polish, bug fixing and followup, plus Poppy, are the champion update team’s big priorities at the moment though. Shen’s rework definitely won’t be this year, early next year’s looking like it could be feasible though.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Do youve an ETA for when Akalis rework will be released

Akali Single Banner

Meddler Final PortraitWe don’t have a timeline for Akali at present. Could be a moderate time after Shen, could be a long time after.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Follow Up Banner

Why not tackle assassins after your Juggernaut Marksman updates

Meddler Final PortraitWe haven’t decided which class to tackle after marksmen. Assassins are definitely a possibility, but still just one of several options we’re talking about. If doing assassins we’d definitely want to sync an Akali rework with that of course.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

Do youve any plans for Talon

Talon Single Banner

Meddler Final PortraitIt’d be good to do some work on him someday, give him some more distinction from standard assassin tools, a more meaningful passive and better counterplay. No current plans for that though, that’ll likely wait until we tackle assassins at a group whenever that is.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Whats happening with the Taric rework

Taric Banner Single

Meddler Final PortraitFor quite a long time we were blocked from working on Taric because we hadn’t found what we felt was the right way to update him without losing core parts of his character. A little while back we found a direction that we’re really happy with, so we’re now in a position where we can look at putting him into the pipeline.

Progress in terms of direction and goals basically, rather than progress in terms of producing the actual character for the game.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will the new Champion Select roll out to ARAM 3v3 and Dominion

New Champ Select Single Banner

[ Note ] You can find an in-game preview of the new Champion Select HERE.

Lyte Final PortraitWe have to first finish the “Blind Pick” version of this experience, then we’ll figure out how we want to tackle unique maps.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

Four premades in SoloQ will have full control over the surrender vote

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s pretty easy to detect if 4:1 premades are surrendering too early, holding the 5th player hostage, so on and so forth. It’s also super easy to resolve, including things like forcing 4:1 premades to have unanimous votes to trigger a Surrender. At the end of the day, there’s way less toxicity to 4:1 situations than players are portraying right now.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will we ever get the chance to kick a player from Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitThe new Champ Select should solve a lot of conflicts because of the system design and things like Pick Intent, Pick 2 Positions, and Distributed Bans. However, if there are still meaningful negative experiences in Champ Select, we’ve considered allowing players to queue dodge and “report” a player and supply a reason. If the reported player was being toxic, we could make sure there’s no queue dodge penalties. But, for us to do this feature there would need to be meaningful Champ Select toxicity, say greater than 5% of lobbies.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will you solve the issue of players trollbanning other peoples pick intents

Lyte Final PortraitIf a player wants to troll, they are going to find a way to do it whether Pick Intent exists or not.

We believe Pick Intent is still a net-positive feature, and provides more value than damage. What we did notice was that by introducing Distributed Bans, far less players trolled Pick Intent. Because nearly every player has a “powerful” choice in Champ Select (whether it’s a ban, or 1st/2nd pick), players are less likely to troll one another in the drafting process because that other player could counter you with something equally damaging.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

How do you plan to balance premade groups playing in high ELO queues

Lyte Final PortraitThere’s a weird misconception around high MMR queues.

We can’t predict exactly what will happen, but here’s a few scenarios:

1) High MMR players will group together with their high MMR friends, and we’ll get to watch some pretty crazy matches between players from different pro teams queuing together. This will be highly competitive and entertaining.

2) High MMR players will decide to all go solo, so it’ll be just like Solo/Duo Queue today except sometimes they’ll face off against premade teams from a lower skill tier.

High MMR players are already waiting in queues and being repeatedly matched with lower tier players, or placed with teams that have Duo Queues of lower skill. This already happens, and won’t be fixed with Dynamic Queues. It’s not really easy to fix the problem of “not enough high tier players” in a queue 😛

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why do the last three players in the new Champ Select get to ban

Lyte Final PortraitPlayer 1 and 2 get first and second pick, which we’ve seen are also “valuable” choices in Champ Select.

Whether we add more bans or not is a super complex topic that Ghostcrawler or Meddler have talked about before, so I don’t want to dig into it here again.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What if a team with one Bronze Silver Gold Plat Diamond player queues

Lyte Final PortraitYou can’t even create that team because Tier Restrictions still exist in Dynamic Queues. Your team has to be within 2 tiers of each other.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

Will we be able to trade picks in the new Champ Select

Lyte Final PortraitYes, there’s still a Trade Phase in the new Champ Select.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

 

Can we just fill any team role

Lyte Final PortraitYou can do this! Just select “Fill” as your Primary position and queue up.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

 

What if I get countered or the Champions for the role I picked are banned

Lyte Final PortraitActually, just like in today’s Champ Select, if you really have to you can negotiate with your team to swap positions. Just like today, you could go, “Hey guys, I really can’t do well versus a Darius Top, anyone mind swapping positions with me?”

We’re not removing any functionality, you can still do this stuff today.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Premade groups will ruin Solo Queue in Master Challenger ELOs

Lyte Final PortraitI’ll be honest, anyone that says they can predict how Dynamic Queues will shake out for high MMR players is just making a wild assumption at this time.

Even we can’t make a prediction about what will happen, but we can map out the scenarios. IF Dynamic Queues are dramatically destroying the experience for many players, we’ll know and we’ll figure out how to solve it. To say we should never try something because of a hypothetical scenario is being risk-averse. We have to be OK taking risks once in awhile if we want to keep pushing League’s potential.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Will we be able to lock Champions to prevent them from being banned

Lyte Final PortraitWhen we introduced Pick Intent, it was critical that we also introduce Distributed Bans. Because every player has a “powerful” choice in Champ Select (either 1st/2nd pick, or a ban) we saw less trolling of Pick Intent because every player had some leverage over the other players. It’s a weird dynamic, but Distributed Bans were effective in reducing trolling. We do not intend on allowing players to “lock” something from being banned during Pick Intent because that could introduce far more damage than positive in the long run–imagine preventing a ban of an S-Tier champion that gets first picked by the opposing team. Chaos would ensue.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Can we be allowed to report players during Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitNot at this time. If there are still significant toxicity issues in Champ Select, we may introduce a feature to allow a player to dodge, and report a player and supply a reason for their dodge. With some machine learning magic, we could assess this report in real-time and remove any potential queue dodge penalties as well. But, this feature is pretty costly, so it’d have to be worth doing.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Have you considered allowing players to queue for one role only

Lyte Final PortraitOne of the big criticisms of Team Builder Classic was queue times, so forcing everyone to choose at least 2 positions really, really improves queue times and ensures queue health. By allowing players to only select 1 position (even if they understand they are waiting longer to play that 1 position), it significantly influences the entire matchmaking ecosystem if only 20% of players choose 1 position only. To us, it’s not worth damaging the entire health of the queue to give players this amount of control.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why not group premades with premades rather than with solo players

Lyte Final PortraitThis pretty much already happens. We’ve made a few changes to the matchmaker so similar group comps are paired against each other. Premade 5s pair more with Premade 5s, before being paired with 4:1 or 3:2 for example. I’ll also note that really, the vast majority of players wanted Dynamic Queues, but of course Reddit is a pretty hardcore demographic and once a thread swings one direction, generally the opposition are not going to jump in to voice an opinion. Most players also don’t realize when they are in games with premades. Nearly 100% of Ranked Games has a Duo Queue today, but players only remember the games when Duo Queues were negative.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Wont queues be just as long as with Team Builder if no one picks Support

Lyte Final PortraitActually, with the “Fill” position, we’re in a pretty good spot for position distributions. We’re also willing to incentivize the in-demand positions with some small bonuses from the future crafting system.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

Heroes of the Storm had groups in Solo Queue and the feature was removed

Lyte Final PortraitTo be clear, Blizzard’s reasons had to do with skill disparity and variance on teams.

We’ve added multiple matchmaking features that solve this problem including Tier Restrictions (you can’t queue with friends beyond a certain tier in skill). Also, CS:GO has a Dynamic Queue system that works pretty well, so you can’t just point to 1 game and say “it’s a bad idea because that game moved away from it.”

[ Link to Post ]

Follow Up Banner

Lyte Final PortraitWe’re also doing a lot of features like Clubs to help players find more friends to play with, and make more friends. We don’t have to do one or the other, we have to try many things!

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

Why not split your feature into a Solo Queue and Small Group Queue

Lyte Final PortraitSplitting the queues into a Pure Solo and Group Queue would have all the queue health problems that we (and other studios) have faced before. When you have a smaller playerbase on a server like Turkey, both queues would be negative experiences. The more you segregate your playerbase, the worse the experience in each island.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why not add voice chat if youre trying to make League more teamoriented

Lyte Final PortraitWe’ve been doing a lot of research on voice chat and the impact it has on the game experience. We have some ideas for how we’d like to solve the negatives that voice chat has, but no teams are actively working on integrated voice chat for League. As you can tell with the 2016 Ranked changes, we are trying to make League more of a team sport, which does make voice comms more valuable.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Skill ranking is irrelevant to how effective group matchmaking is

Lyte Final PortraitWhen players make statements like “Skill Ranking” means nothing, it might not actually reflect reality.

What does it mean for “Skill Ranking” to mean something? Technically, it means things like if I have Player A (1200 MMR) against Player B (1200 MMR) they will reliably win 50% of their matches against each other over 100s of games. It means things like if I have Player A (1240 MMR) against Player B (1200 MMR), Player A will win their matches 54% of the time if you’re using the basic Elo equation from Chess. Of course, this is a simplified model because most PvP games are team-based so there’s additional variables… but you get the point.

I don’t think players can concretely say that in CS:GO, the Dynamic Queue system is so bad that a significant number of matchups are erroneous and therefore Skill Rating means nothing. On average, a higher skill player will still beat a lower skill player. The question is, how consistently does this happen? If a higher skill player beats a lower skill player at a predictable % of the time, I think the system is working effectively. If a higher skill player should beat a lower skill player 60% of the time, but only beats them 40% of the time on average, something is broken.

I may have gotten a bit too into the math weeds here, but unless you can see the data like Valve (or like us), you can’t simply conclude that Skill Ratings mean nothing in Dynamic Queues. Could it become less accurate than before? Yes. However, if 30% more players enjoy Ranked, and Skill Rating means 2% less… is that a valuable tradeoff? Maybe. Until we try this out for a bit, we don’t know what those numbers will be and what the tradeoffs are, so it’s too early to make wild assumptions.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why do you think 41 queues will level out at 50 winrate for the solo player

Lyte Final PortraitWe’ve dug into examples like this many times before, and it’s generally because the Normal MMRs of the players don’t reflect their Ranked MMRs. This is a known problem that we have some fixes for called “Splashing.” Basically, as your Ranked MMR increases, we “splash” some points into the other queue MMRs to make sure they are all tied a bit closer. But, in practice this didn’t work too well because a lot of higher tier players mess around in Normals or only want to play casual in Normals with friends, so they DIDN’T want their Ranked MMR to affect other queues.

Long story short, it does look bad, but actually if you look at the matches holistically, you still have very close to a 50% win rate in those matches.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why not learn from Normal games how premade behavior affects queues

Lyte Final PortraitThis is exactly why we’d like to work in Normal Draft Queues first, because they are a close model of how a Dynamic Queue might work. We’re also testing “Ranked Queues” in NA and TR, to get an even closer model of how things might shake out.

We’ll know more soon, we just need players to give us a chance to try things before jumping up in arms and condemning it. We aren’t crazy, and we know this is risky–but, we want to try.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

How did you gather data that suggests most players want Dynamic Ranked

Lyte Final PortraitWe run random sample surveys across the entire global playerbase regularly, so we tend to get a nice representative response from all demographics–the hardcore, the average, the player that never visits forums, the player that visits Reddit 8x a day, etc.

 

The truth is, in every survey we’ve done, the majority of players were interested in Dynamic Queue. That doesn’t mean we just use that data point and force Dynamic Queue on everyone because we also saw that a non-trivial number of players were solo purists, and loved the idea of “true” Solo Queue and their experiences may get slightly worse because of Dynamic Queue. So, we assessed all the potential negatives that Dynamic Queue had, and implemented upgrades or new features that tried to address them. Did we succeed in making it overall a great experience for the vast majority of players? We don’t know yet. We need to try, collect data, learn, and iterate.

That’s how design is.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

I think the queue change will contribute to the communitys declining skill level

Lyte Final PortraitI don’t believe skill level required to be a top tier player has diminished over time. In fact, it’s increased over time.

1) When you look at Ranked data, most players are only proficient at 2 positions. 2.2, to be specific. There wasn’t really a time period in League history where players were proficient at all 5 positions. In the new Champ Select, you still have to master at least 2 positions to rank up effectively.

2) As the game has matured, the skill level required to compete has only steadily increased. There are more websites, guides, blogs, deep analysis on game mechanics than ever before which is improving education of players on game mastery. There is more infrastructure in eSports (for highschool, colleges, and pro) than ever before, and it’s greatly improving the ‘average’ skill level of top players. 4-5 years ago, there was no true understanding of ‘optimal’ ways to play the game, and you didn’t have to understand little nuances to be in the Top 500 players in the world. Today, by about Level 15, players already are beginning to get a feel for the meta, what champions are effective at what positions, etc. A top player today would absolutely crush a top player from a few years ago.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What the majority of players want may not be whats good for the community

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s getting late–I need to get some rest so will skip some of your bigger discussions for now. At the risk of sounding offensive (which is NOT my intention with this reply), couldn’t we use the same arguments against solo purists? What if Dynamic Queue is something solo purists say they don’t want, but actually is better for them in the long run too?

 

My point is, I agree that players sometimes say one thing, but mean another. Or, sometimes players really don’t know what they actually want. But, I’d be wary assuming “the other population” is the one that doesn’t know what they want, and your population knows exactly what you want and that you must be right. It’s a game designer’s job to try to figure out the reality behind the fog, and try to understand what is actually the best experience–but I’ll be the first to say that it’s hard, and sometimes we’ll get it wrong. This might be one of those times, it might not be. But, we’re willing to give it a go and pivot as necessary–even if it’s mid-season.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Marksman Update in the 2016 Season

Graves Single Banner

Ezreal Final PortraitChampion Update team here! While you’ve probably already seen the big changes due for marksmen (if you haven’t, check it all out here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/preseason.html ), we wanted to set aside a moment for a deeper dive. The new marksmen update comes hot on the heels of the juggernauts update (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/gameplay-update-juggernauts ) and, with so much changing so fast, we think it’s a good idea to pause for a more philosophical reflection.

But first, a quick look back.

When we set out to tackle the juggernauts, we were working with a whole lot of unknowns. This was a set of champions that didn’t have much in the way of strategic identity. By really highlighting their strengths, we gave them clear ways to succeed (and fail) in an unfamiliar environment. Making something from nothing is a really interesting space to work in and we think we’ve achieved our philosophical goal with many of them. The tricky bit, however, was calibrating the juggernaut’s appropriate weaknesses against their raw power.

With marksmen, we have a few advantages. First, because the class as a whole already has a clear function and they’re played in pretty much every game of League, we have a much stronger understanding of their capabilities and expectations. Additionally, because the core weakness of every marksman is “blow ‘em up,” they have some pretty clear checks in place when it comes to solo-carrying games.

Looking forward, our vision remains consistent: We want to give each updated champion a unique reason to be brought to a game, and we want each champion to feel different whether playing against, as, or with. For some, this means sharpening what they already do well, or should do well. For others, it means finding new elements that make them feel special. We want you to have a reason to pick Graves over Lucian, and vice-versa, outside of just dealing more damage.

Our additional goal is to ensure basic attacks between marksmen are as differentiated as possible. This is a new goal that’s very important for this group in particular, given how reliant they are on basic attacks.

Let’s take a closer look at some of the changes. We’ll be throwing out a high-level overview of the updates before we go a little deeper on the philosophy behind them, in case you haven’t checked out the site.

 

Graves Final Portrait

“This calls for the ol’ double-barreled ‘Hello.’”

Graves’ double-barreled shotgun is one of the most distinctive weapons in the marksman arsenal. However, this weapon was underutilized as a kind of mid-range, burst, poke, cone spell. So we doubled-down on the classic shotgun fantasy. Now Graves’ basic attacks fire four rounds (eight on a crit!) in a cone in front of him, dealing damage and knocking back minions. Graves has tradeoffs for this unique mechanic, as he has to reload after firing two rounds (but can quickly reload via Quickdraw), and his basic attacks can be body-blocked.

Because we basically pushed Graves’ Q onto his basic attack, we decided to give him a new Q in the form of End of the Line, where he fires out an explosive canister, leaving behind a trail of gunpowder. That canister then explodes after a few seconds (or immediately on colliding with a wall) and detonates the gunpowder for additional damage.

With the defensive buff from Quickdraw and his incredibly high threat on close-range targets, Graves is the kind of marksman you want to bring when enemies have a lot of backline access (see: diving assassins). The tradeoff here is that Graves loses out on a lot of long-range target selection that other marksmen have, since his basic attacks can’t go over enemies.

The changes focuses on pushing Graves’ identity as a close-range, brawling marksman, and we’re excited to see how he does once he gets into the fight.

 

Quinn Final Portrait

“Justice takes wing.”

Despite its innate coolness factor, Quinn’s old ultimate still had problems. It forced her into overwhelming danger, often leading to trades at the cost of her life (not a great deal!). We are re-imagining her ultimate to play up its tag-team, high-speed nature: Valor now swoops down to carry Quinn, giving her massive out-of-combat mobility. This sharpens Quinn’s identity as a rapid-response marksman. Quinn can aid skirmishes in the jungle, swap lanes to help ganks, respond to split-pushes (or split-push herself), and make it back in time to help with a team fight. Need eyes on Baron? Send Quinn to scout it out!

 

Corki Final Portrait

“Bombs away!”

Corki, the Daring Bombardier, hasn’t been very true to his title. Optimal play for Corki was to play it safe and poke from a distance; he lacked the tools to make big plays. We decided to fix this in an… explosive way. With the addition of Special Delivery – a single-time upgrade to Valkyrie that amps up the damage, range, and disruption of the ability – Corki needs to focus on what sort of decisive action he’ll take to capitalize on the skill. It won’t be easy, but the reward is huge.

Finally, to further push Corki’s identity as the magic damage marksman, his auto-attacks now deal split magic/physical damage and his gatling gun shreds both resists. This allows teams to build around Corki being the primary magic damage dealer, something rather unique in the strategic space of marksmen.

 

Miss Fortune Final Portrait

“Fortune doesn’t favor fools.”

Miss Fortune has been synonymous with the famed WOMBO COMBO since she first strutted onto the Rift, though much less so after frequent nerfs to Bullet Time. We wanted the WOMBO back, so we increased her ult’s duration by 50% and increased the number of bullet waves as the game progresses by… a lot.

As for her new passive, we drew a lot of inspiration from Double Up. In lane, Miss Fortune draws tons of strength from her Q, especially in a 2v2 scenario where she can put a lot of pressure on both targets if they don’t position properly. These changes are our way of doubling… down on that thematic, with more rewards for precise target juggling and positioning (the precision is important as well, as there are champions like Varus or Twitch who excel at dumping out a lot of group AoE damage).

 

Caitlyn Final Portrait

“Meet the long gun of the law.”

For Caitlyn, we had to ask ourselves, “How much further can we push the sharpshooter fantasy?” The answer: Like, a lot further. By giving Caitlyn massive range on any enemy she can net or trap, we’re emphasizing her sharpshooting strengths. Giving Yordle Snap Trap an ammo system amplifies Cait’s natural ability to create choke points, while also improving her ability to dominate territory around objectives. The choice between spreading traps for surprise ambushes and setting up lines of defense gives you different ways to capitalize on Cait’s role as League’s #1 sniper elite.

 

Kogmaw Final Portrait

“Feeding time!”

Everyone’s favorite Void puppy just got even more adorabler. Kog’Maw already has a familiar identity in his “Protect the Kog” team comp, but we felt we could amplify it while also separating him from other tank busters. Now, Kog’s Bio-Arcane Barrage doubles his attack speed and attack speed cap, up to five attacks per second (!!!). This makes him the quintessential attack speed “proc” champion, a low-mobility machine-gun of death. It does wonders for creating a unique itemization path and, of course, it makes him look way cooler.

As a quick note for Living Artillery: Changing the damage from raw poke to execution allows Kog to differentiate himself from other long-range pokers. Kog by himself might not make for the perfect poke composition, but if you combine him with enough additional pressure, he can pick off fleeing enemies while also becoming a central damage turret for his team.


So those are our rough thoughts on the update. We’d love to hear yours as you test the changes in action (soon), but these, in tandem with the marksmen itemization update, should bring some interesting changes to the class as a whole.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Whyd you gut Miss Fortunes dueling potential in her Preseason rework

Miss Fortune Single Banner

Ezreal Final PortraitI can understand that feeling, whenever we refocus a champion’s design we will have to take power away from one area in order to place it into another. In MF’s case, we certainly took down her dueling potential a notch. Though in doing so, we’ve given her a much more solidified role in the aoe carry. She has even more incentives to pass damage around to multiple targets.

Ps. You are a badass for running jungle MF, how the heck did you do it?

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Is her new Love Taps passive a gimmicky bonus or a necessity on her kit

Ezreal Final PortraitOne of the problems with ADCs was that they all had the exact same play pattern. Part of our update is focusing on changing it up a bit. For example, Graves reallllly wants to get in close, Kog’Maw needs to plan ahead of time for his damage window, etc. For MF, she can still certainly get off a ton of damage on a single target, it just isn’t as free as before. Her bonus attack speed is actually far larger than before, just for a far shorter window of time. So now she chooses between short duels and long form target swapping.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Whyd you make the more minor ADC changes for example to Ashes Q

Ezreal Final PortraitUnsure as to which Q change you are talking about, though I’ll chat about the main two. We made it only castable at 5 stacks since the ability was didn’t propose a good choice. Either you cast it well at 5 stacks and got a fantastic benefit, or you cast it below 5 and went home sad. For the cooldown removal, we really wanted to let players push the limits of the spell. If they were able to keep it up all the time, then they deserved to be rewarded!

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Are there any plans to update Ezreals W

Ezreal Final PortraitThere are no current plans to update Ezreal’s W. I do have to admit, I would love to see us update that ability with something far more interesting, but that is a change for the future.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

DEV BLOG Vision in the 2016 Season

Vision Changes Single Banner

Pwyff Final Portrait Posting for Xypherous!

We’ve generally been happy with some of the new vision mechanics in the game with the advent of Season 5. However, as the vision system has grown organically over time, the map has become increasingly brighter and brighter since Season 4.

Additionally, the amount of unused trinkets and profusion of various vision types made it hard to consider expansions onto an already bloated system so this Season will mostly focus around concentrating the vision game to fewer discrete points.

Sight_Ward

First off, we’ve removed Green Wards. This is a pretty big sledgehammer to vision overall and the map is significantly darker because of it. We heard a lot of feedback on this and I wanted to give more context:

When vision is in a “consumable” state, it does a few things to the game that we want to change. First, because map knowledge is so powerful, the ideal state of vision for two teams is basically “as much as you can.” That means that teams will be perpetually funneling their excess gold (or in the case of supports and some junglers, their core gold income) into as much vision upkeep as possible. The compelling decision of when to ward and where to ward gets flattened.

For supports, engaging so heavily with the vision system means they’ll often need to give up late-game purchases and slot efficiency to ensure the map is well lit. For others, it becomes a gold dump to push an advantage. By taking all ‘safe’ vision (invisible wards) out of the gold stream and placing them on meaningfully gated cooldowns, teams will have to think a lot more about where they want to set up on the map, rather than it being a given luxury for who can do it.

In addition to the removal of Green Wards, we’re also doing the following changes:

vision ward

Pink Wards will still remain buyable and represent an investment into permanent vision control over an area. They’re also slightly cheaper and fall into Sight Ward’s original cost range.

  • Trinkets

The Trinket System has been streamlined down to 2 basic options, plus 2 “alterations” that become available at Level 9. Trinkets also now continuously improve with level rather than at discrete levels in the game.

Warding_Totem_item

Warding Totem will now behave like the upgraded Warding Totem on live which slowly charges up to store additional wards. The duration and charges have been tweaked to increase continuously with character level.

We like the flexibility and general gameplay of the upgraded trinket as it allows you to maintain vision over a small area for a long time or tactically cover a wide area by yourself if you’ve built up charges over time – giving it a much wider range of potential uses.

Sweeping_Lens_item

Sweeping Lens has taken a hit in power now that there aren’t potentially green wards everywhere.

To compensate, red gains the ability to warn against things that you can’t see in the area letting you know the shape or silhouette of things in fog of war without revealing them directly. This includes things like jungler monsters (check if that camp is up!) and Pink Wards, in addition to providing the silhouette of stealthed threats like champions in brush, fog of war or stealth.

Sweeping Lens’ core functionality becomes alerting you as to whether or not anything in the swept area can detect you and allowing you to disable them.

  • “Alterations”

Instead of upgrades, which are strictly better than the original trinket that you have, we’ve instead chosen to move in the direction of side-grading and altering existing functionality of trinkets.

These swap the functionality of your existing trinket by improving the power of some aspects and decreasing the power in other aspects.

Farsight_Orb_item

Yellow Trinket’s alteration – the Farsight Totem is unlocked at level 9 and functions similarly to the Farsight Orb on live with some improvements. You gain vastly increased range and a shorter cooldown… at the expense of having visible wards and losing the ability to build charges.

In a departure from live, these “blue” wards now last forever and don’t count towards your ward count. Since these wards are easily destructible by opponents, we don’t foresee this as contributing significantly to the overall vision of the map unless a team decides to use multiple blue trinkets in parallel to light up disparate regions of the map over time.

So you can light up the map as long as you do it as part of an ongoing campaign to hold territory for extended periods of time.

Oracle's_Lens_item

The Sweeping Lens’ alteration – the Oracle Lens (also unlocked at 9) – is more tame in comparison and very similar to the Oracle upgrade on live. In lieu of gaining true sight, the red trinket simply has a much wider sweep range and follows you around for 10 seconds.

However, combined with the fact that red trinket can warn you against enemy units that you can’t see – this means it will also provide a proximity check so you don’t walk headlong into an enemy ward or brush.

  • Closing

Vision remains an important key strategic strength in League of Legends. The current vision system has a ton of small moving parts, as well as a few mechanics that just make the system kind of obtuse to interact with.

We want to streamline the existing vision items to a smaller core set of vision items while also allowing that core to branch out in interesting directions and overlapping functions. Overall, the power in vision should be more condensed in the options that remain.

We’re taking advantage of the overall reduction in small vision buys to offer more interesting total item build options in the form of the Sightstone upgrades or the Jungle enchantments. Our goal was not to make the overall vision experience more complicated, but allow vision options to form the basis for more interesting total builds. From the support who forgoes his actives in favor of a powerful AP build, to the support who doubles down on active items, to the Jungler who forgoes combat in favor of map wide vision and utility.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Isnt the removal of Oracles Lens another indirect buff to stealth champions

Xypherous Final PortraitKind of? Other systematic changes such as Marksmen getting better kite / soak options / the removal of Brutalizer / the removal of Trailblazer and the like would probably be indirect nerfs to those characters.

The only stealth champions that haven’t been indirect nerf/buffed in a lot of ways is Akali / Evelyn / Twitch at this point. Eve has never been affected by the true sight from Oracles as her stealth shuts itself off and Akali’s stealth is rather situational.

Twitch, I agree might be a problem – but I’m not sure he was ever at a range to be detected by Oracles when he was murdering you in Stealth. Still – he’s probably the biggest beneficiary of the changes.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Vaynes impossible to fight without an Oracles Lens

Xypherous Final PortraitTrue – but so much of her itemization has changed that it’s hard to tell whether she’s better or worse from a total power perspective.

BoRK is noticeably worse early now, for example – so her assassination playstyle kind of takes a hit.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

What about Shaco Rengar KhaZix and Vayne

Xypherous Final PortraitLoss of an early brutalizer and trailblazer hurts Rengar and Kha’zix pretty substantially I find. Similarly, Vayne and BoRK is no longer as powerful as an early power spike.

Shaco, on the other hand, builds whatever he wants – but Shaco is also likely affected by the loss of the early Brut as well.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Do the Trinket changes mean people dont have to be reminded to upgrade them

Xypherous Final PortraitIt scales on a per level basis – so not for most roles. The goal is that people should only feel compelled to exchange their trinket when they want fundamentally different functionality – rather than just a more powerful version of their existing one.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

If upgrades are supposed to be sidegrades why are they still levelgated

Xypherous Final PortraitExcellent question. They’re level-gated because they’re meant to serve mid-game or late-game vision functions that would be overpowered in early game.

Because players don’t move around a lot in lane – things that can affect others at a long range or a wider area are significantly more powerful – hence the level-gate.

If you want to be really specific – the best trigger would probably be something like ‘Buyable after laning phase’ – unfortunately, there’s no real way to tell when it ends that organically in an understandable way – hence the level restriction.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why cant we have some way of recharging Sightstone outside the base

Xypherous Final PortraitThere’s are a couple of reasons why you want players returning to base on a regular cadence – doubly so for a class that doesn’t have much other reason to return as their item upgrades are relatively less important.

More practically, this favors the team that is pushed in rather than the team that is pushing in most respects – as the winning team is the one best suited to ‘waiting out in the field.’ We’d never really be able to put a recharge timer on it that seemed useful without causing some really weird side effects in this case.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why was ward duration decreased from 180 seconds to 150

Xypherous Final PortraitThe goal was to make the map overall darker and chip as much unnecessary vision power away as possible – hence the reduction. It also helps separate the two use cases out for vision a bit better – shorter term stealth vision vs. longer term control over an area.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

So Sightstone was nerfed even further and isnt worth a supports item slot

Xypherous Final PortraitThat’d be a perfectly reasonable response if the item isn’t worth the slot. If that was the right call to make, I’d expect most of our players to do the same and then we’d simply adjust.

Not entirely convinced the item is weaker given that it’s one of the few sources of invisible wards – so the relative strength should be incredibly high – but if that’s actually the case – yeah, you’d be wise to avoid buying the item entirely.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

There needs to be a Sightstoneesque item that works like a Sweeper trinket

Xypherous Final PortraitI could see that – but the conflicting data point for me here is that the reason why Sweeper’s have such a high hit rate on live is that there’s always wards up due to the prevalence of buyable green wards – at least at higher level play.

I’m uncertain as to how much value is lost as we’re moving from a mostly-lit world in which Sweeper has a fairly high hit rate – to a somewhat-dark world where the hit rate will be much lower.

Vision removal in the item system should be somewhat better covered by cheaper pink wards as well. It may still very well be the case that red trinket has no comparable option and thus Sightstones need to exist so that you can have a red trinket in your inventory – but I’m not inclined to say that this is actually a bad state.

Basically, what I’ve found is that more choices in how you spend gold in vision has mostly led to either negative or kind of poor game-play in general. Complex gold decisions around vision hasn’t yielded good returns in either skillful play (as you should sink as much as you can) or have been particularly satisfying without being brutally overpowered.

The approach we’re trying this season focuses more around complex choices in how youuse vision – rather than how you acquire it – by both severe rate limitations – as well as allowing some more complex functionality to exist without a gold investment.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Vision is integral to winning Why are so many players not warding

Xypherous Final PortraitIt’s likely that warding just isn’t viewed as an activity that makes a ton of sense from an abstract perspective. Put down sticks that grant vision? What?

Eventually, we’ll want to revisit the concept of static wards to begin with and see if there’s a better analogy that still plays a part in the vision game. This is super speculative – but imagine if, instead of a pink ward – you placed a tiny speed shrine that also provided vision.

I suspect that eventually, we’ll have to shift the analogy to like ‘mini-buildings’ or ‘mini-structures’ rather than ‘sticks that see’ in the long long run.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why not have tutorials that teach players the importance of vision

Xypherous Final PortraitTutorials and teaching players are definitely worth pursuing – However, with warding and such, it feels very much like a state of like ‘Well, we could teach them how to do Assembly… but.. maybe we should look at what we want them to do and confirm that’s actually a deep and engaging activity first.’

The other portion of this is that I believe Tutorials that teach you how to ward are going to have a major gap in that you cannot learn from your current enemy if the enemy has found some new clever way to use them. Hence – any tutorials are going to have a continual lag time – so whatever you’re teaching should also have some kind of learnable component from observing your enemy and allies in game.

[ Link to Post ]

 

What led to the pink ward trinket option being removed

Xypherous Final PortraitA lot of the trinket options were removed to streamline the system down. There are some interesting expansion opportunities for the trinket space that I want to look into – and so we removed it to condense the space down to the bare minimum to replicate what most of the players on live regularly use.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

DEV BLOG Starting Items in the 2016 Season

Pwyff Final PortraitPosting for Xypherous!

Our original intent with starting items before this season was to give players the ability to reflexively counter their opponents with generalist options running alongside more pronounced counter-items for specific circumstances (Flask, Doran’s Shield).

However, after a couple of seasons of attempting to balance this world, we’ve grown unhappy with how confining this approach is and the general problems that resulted from this approach. We’re decided to take a different tactic and adopt a pattern closer to the support line of items: Starter items that clearly express some kind of goal or intent in lane alongside a more generalist item for each of the positions in the game.

Magic – Doran’s Ring vs. The Dark Seal

Doran’s Ring is a powerful farming generalist item while The Dark Seal signifies an intent to roam and pick up champion kills along the the way.

While this doesn’t support the full spectrum of mages in mid, it does represent two of the largest factions – push mages vs. assassin roamers.

Attack – Cull vs. Doran’s Blade

Cull is an early skirmish option designed to be focused primarily around farming and light aggression.

Doran’s Blade on the other hand, is a generalist option that scales much better into mid-game and is better in skirmish situations.

Jungle – Hunter’s Talisman vs. Hunter’s Machete

Machete has long favored a certain class of attack speed centric characters and this represents a quandary of how to actually support mage or tank style junglers from the get-go.

Machete now doubles down on its auto-attack centric nature while Talisman focuses on area burn and mana regeneration. Talisman is primarily designed for spell focused junglers – especially those that have repeated area of effect attacks on moderate cooldowns (like Brand or Zyra).

Both of these initial items are required to upgrade into the Tier 2 Jungle item, so your choice of initial item will eventually become moot. However, this flexibility of starting options combined with the patience system should open up stronger opening jungle patterns to a wider variety of junglers.

Lane Sustain – Health Potion vs. Refillable Potion

One of the major issues with Crystalline Flask right now is that we are unable to push its power to the point where it feels non-abusive in lane. This is due to the fact that it stacks with potions and thus any power add-on in Crystalline Flask gets doubled down on because you stack potions with it.

Hence, the new inventory rule: you can only ever have one type of potion in your inventory at any time.

Refillable Potions are 3 times more expensive than a potion but benefit from the fact that they will recharge once you return to the fountain. Normal Healing Potions represent more healing up-front for less gold but is obviously temporary in nature.

Refillable Upgrades – Jungle vs. Lane

This, by itself, would probably still be on the weak side. However, Refillable Potions can upgrade into two versions: Hunter’s Potion and Corrupting Potion.

Hunter’s Potion is a roam-centric potion that can regain charges out in the field while you are killing large jungle monsters. It’s designed primarily to support a Jungle playstyle that focuses on maximal uptime or bolstering characters with low innate sustain.

Corrupting Potion is similar to Crystalline Flask on live – with the added benefit of combat power. During its effect, damaging enemy champions will burn them for magic damage over time. Corrupting Potion represents an intent to harass your lane opponent until they give up.

Mana Potions – Removed

Mana Potions have been removed from the game. We’ve generally found that the decision to opt into Mana Potions was one that was either forced upon some champions (aka “I need this mana to function”) or one that was generally only available to a handful of circumstances.

The best use cases of Mana Potions were typically to circumvent Mana restrictions for boom/bust play patterns (ie: save up to X amount of mana before dumping it all in a large burst of damage, repeat) vs. attrition-based approaches that are more in favor of straight mana regeneration. A champion being able to access their big “all-in” combo more frequently also makes it challenging for us to balance appropriately, and we’ve seen some more frustrating champions have their power reduced as a result.

With the removal of mana potions, we can also retune some champion mana values back to a middle ground. We’ve looked at the data for champions that frequently bought 2 or more mana potions in the game and we’ve either increased their maximum mana or the mana regeneration values based on their class.

  • Closing

For the start of the season, we’ve focused on granting at least two options to a particular need in the starting item space to support a wider variety of playstyles and intents from the start of the game.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why are you both buffing earlygame harass and nerfing Dorans Shield

Xypherous Final PortraitBased on usage – the maximum sustain starts were most frequently used by characters that thrived on early harass. Pantheon, Kassadin and the like were the most effective users of maximal sustain starts – and they frequently used that high sustain to capitalize on early bullying pressure.

While I agree with you that there’s a dearth of solo lane tank starts – most of the solo tank starting item patterns that seem to make senseat first glance – we’ve found that when those options are strong – they tend to be better on pretty much anyone but solo tanks – like bot lane support/adc pairs.

You’ve gone and added a ton of new items for every other class

If we’re not talking about starting items – this item pass has mostly focused on AD Marksmen and some light AD work – rather than ‘every other class.’

The other facet of this is that in the Juggernaut update – there have been a ton of items – while their primary users aren’t tanks – have added to the tank pool of items (DMP and Sterak’s.)

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why are you buffing Dorans Blade

Xypherous Final PortraitFree lifesteal in the ferocity tree makes the relative advantage of picking up a Doran’s Blade weaker in the early item selection phase – as it means it now has to compete with some of the older component based starts (Long Sword + 3) at a much large disadvantage.

Long Sword + 3 is especially problematic if it becomes the default option again – as that’s more early in-lane sustain, hence why we try to keep DBlade competitive with it.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Its power creep to buff one item start for ADCs so it competes with another

Xypherous Final PortraitIn order to run this argument – you need to run through this by several means:

  1. The mastery AD tree gives you as much power in terms of raw offense as before / The beneficiaries of Doran’s Blade have more total raw power than before in pre-game.
  2. Similar argument to #1 – but from a relative perspective – AKA – everyone lost more than they gained.
  3. That this power advantage hasn’t been taken into account elsewhere – like their most powerful first item buy.
  4. That other starting item paths haven’t been buffed as well or heavily adjusted.

While I’m not convinced any of these are true or false as there’s a lot of mechanics going on – I know that a lot of the AD efficiency, early potential spike in AD power, the conversion from total pen to bonus pen in the AD system and the decoupling of flat pen from % pen in the mastery system make the AD curve less steep than it previously was.

While I can’t go out to say that ‘No, power creep isn’t happening’ – What I can say is that I can see other factors that work in the opposite direction of power creep – so adjustment based off initial reads is likely the best solution.

You can strongly make the claim ‘I think a Solo tanks early game is weaker than it was’ – which is probably true. I’m less certain about the statement that ‘Solo tanks are weaker’ as a whole – as most of the efficiency passes, especially in terms of MR – are more favorable to them.

All that said, I totally get why you feel the way that you do. It’s not your job to read every change and put them all together and evaluate whether or not it comes out in one way or another.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

If we arent meant to bring the new pots to lategame why do they cost so much

Xypherous Final PortraitYou can claim this about most non-upgradeable starting items.

However, the catch-22 part comes in only if you assume that games cannot be won before slots start to become a problem or that the item’s power curve doesn’t translate well into the mid-game at all.

Sellback values mitigate some of the initial cost for the mid and late game – and the trade-off between a more powerful early start vs. a guaranteed late game is always whether or not you got enough interim value out of the item to make up the deficit in this regard in terms of either uptime or personal performance.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Why do the Dark Seal and Mejai lose a flat amount of stacks per death

Xypherous Final PortraitThe most common points of feedback when losing a % of stacks is that it’s never worth it to trade kills and die with the item – since the better you did – the more stacks you lose. Experimenting with a flat amount of stacks so that players can evaluate their plays much better. Did you get 2+ kills? Then it was worth it, even if you died.

The other part of this is that a % loss on death lead to some awkward double-kill or post-death / post-assist death scenarios. While flat suffers from similar problems at the low end – it won’t be as ubiquitous.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

I feel like Mejai got even more snowbally than before

Xypherous Final PortraitThe item is likely more snowbally than before. The idea behind the Dark Seal is that you have a point in the game where you:

  1. Broadcast that you want to do a snowball route (since.. the Dark Seal doesn’t really build into anything else.)
  2. Have a chance to back out if things don’t go your way.

So there’s much less initial risk to the item – and thus the item can be snowbally but will be less feast or famine because a good player can cut his losses early, so to speak.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Are there plans to make a third flask that simply heals faster than the others

Xypherous Final PortraitNot at the moment.

Maximum sustain in lane is something that players would always like more of (as the best way to beat your opponent is to simply have more health at any given time – go go 13 potion starts).

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Was it intentional to make the biscuits effect NOT apply to flasks

Xypherous Final PortraitFor now, yes. Although, I could certainly see us deciding the other way in the future easily based on item usage. Eternal Biscuit of Replenishment?

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

 

What are the expected starting items for someone who needs sustain

Xypherous Final PortraitIf you need a huge chunk of sustain – the expected stat is that you get Corrupting Potion. The other facet of this is that there are a lot more individual sustain options in other pre-game systems (Lifesteal naturally in ferocity tree, for example) – so there should be enough customization bits out of game to bolster this as well.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Do you think some Champions will become weak due to the Mana pot removal

Xypherous Final PortraitCurrently the stance is that we’d prefer if Mana purchases reflected more permanent decision making. This is why Frostfang’s line of MP/5 has been greatly increased for example.

Mana potions to support off uses is a niche benefit but the niche benefit doesn’t really outweigh tremendous initial costs in tuning. 😡

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

It feels like Cull and The Dark Seal are trap items that make laning too weak

Xypherous Final PortraitAgree that these two items have a higher risk potential than the standard starting items. Dark Seal and Cull don’t necessarily have to be purchased as your first buy – if you want to take a safer route and see how the lane goals.

Doran’s Ring into Dark Seal instead of a second Doran’s Ring after you’ve gauaged the lane can be an effective way at mitigating that risk. Similarly with Doran’s Blade into first back Cull.

The other idea that we’re stressing here is that, in the absence of greedy items – there’s no real way to punish a safe lane that’s doubled down on being as not dead as possible. Cull / Dark Seal both support the notion that – if you try that approach – then I can respond by getting more out of the laning phase than you will via farm or more powerful rewards for roam.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

How do you think the jungle changes will affect AD assassins

Xypherous Final PortraitWe turn over the jungle pool every year pretty consistently – so the ability for an individual jungler to have the same clear speed as before isn’t as important. AD Casters will specifically generally have a harder time of it in this year than previous years.

It’s definitely something we’ll have to keep tuning as we get better data on how players are adapting.

[ Link to Post ]

 


If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

New Champ Select banner Big

A new Champion Select interface is coming next Season, complete with a shared ban system and the Team Builder role picks:

 


NEW CHAMP SELECT Banner

 

Break out your best champs in your favorite roles. With new champ select, everyone is on the same page before the draft even begins. Each player chooses two positions (or fill!) before queueing up to find a team. A new feature, “pick intent”, helps everyone understand the champ you want to play and the contribution you want to make to your team’s comp. With the draft underway, a new ban phase distributes one ban each to the players who receive the last three picks, while the top two have a shot at securing priority champs for the team. Put simply: champ select should leave every teammate – and every team – better placed to smash the enemy nexus.

The new champ select process will head to PBE first before going live in normal draft with an upcoming patch. We’ll also be testing improvements to the ranked experience during this time, but those features may show up on PBE after the new champ select. We’ll have more details farther down the page, but here’s a quick look what’s coming:

 


POSITION SELECT Banner

You now select two positions out of top, jungle, mid, bottom, support, and fill. Requiring two positions ensures short queue times and that no one gets stuck in a position they don’t want to play.

 


POSITION ASSIGNMENT Banner

Everyone learns where they’re headed at the same time. Team chat appears here, helping the team get on the same page.

 


PICK INTENT Banner

Before the ban phase begins, you can pick the champ you plan to play, highlighting it for your teammates to see. Pick intent helps your team sort out potential comps and avoid teammate-harming bans.

 


BANS Banner

We’re distributing drafting responsibilities amongst all players. A new ban phase distributes one ban each to the players who receive the last three picks, while the top two have a shot at securing priority champs for the team. For clarity: bans still happen before picks.


 

PICKS Banner

Bans and picks happen one at a time and require everyone to lock in their choice. If anyone fails to lock in a pick or ban, champ select ends and players return to queue. We expect this change to speed up champ select after everyone adjusts to locking in picks and bans.

 


EXPLORING NEW CHAMP SELECT Banner

Friends understand each other’s intentions and set each other up for success. This idea is key to champ select’s new design.The new champ select helps strangers cooperate so every player plays from a position of strength, understands their teammates, and makes their best possible contribution to a win.

 


PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS Banner

 

POSITION ASSIGNMENT Banner

When exploring position select, we delved into how most people play the game and designed around what we found: most players feel strongest in two positions. So you now select two positions out of top, jungle, mid, bottom, support, and fill. You’re guaranteed to land in one of the positions you select. And yes, support’s now officially a position in addition to a role. Check out your options:

  • Select a primary and secondary position and matchmaking weights your primary choice, making it more likely you land there; you’re guaranteed to slot into one of the positions you select
  • Select a primary position and “Fill” as your secondary, and matchmaking weights your primary choice, placing you in any other role if necessary
  • Select “Fill” and join a team in any position

Requiring two positions ensures short queue times and that no one on your team gets stuck in a position they don’t want to play. We know some options (*cough* support and jungle) aren’t always quite as popular, and plan to incentivize these roles with IP bonuses if necessary.

We don’t see position select impeding lane swaps or other emergent strategies in the future, and teams remain totally free to collaborate and experiment with different comps (double jungle 2016)!

 


UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAMMATES Banner

 

PICK INTENT Banner Mini

After your match is made, you and your new teammates discover your position and enter the draft. Before the ban phase begins, everyone picks the champ they plan to play—this is called pick intent. Pick intent helps your team sort out potential comps and avoid teammate-harming bans.

 

No More Surprises Banner

Now each player selects their champion one at a time. For example, if your team has first pick, the opposing team still picks two champions afterward, they just lock in one after the other.

As a result, however, both bans and picks now require everyone to lock in their choice. If a player fails to lock in a pick or ban, champ select ends and players return to queue (and that player faces the same queue dodge penalties).

 


MAKE YOUR CONTRIBUTION Banner

 

DISTRIBUTED BANS Banner

We’re distributing drafting responsibilities amongst all players so every player gets a chance to make a meaningful contribution to their team. A new ban phase distributes one ban each to the players who receive the last three picks, while the top two have a shot at securing priority champs for the team. For clarity: bans still happen before picks.

 

PBE FIRST, NORMAL DRAFT SOON AFTER, RANKED AND BLIND PICK LATER DURING THE 2016 SEASON

New champ select hits PBE first, and will go live in normal draft during an upcoming patch. We’ll keep you posted on all queue changes as they approach, and we’re excited to hear your feedback!



If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.