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PBE Round-up: Patch 6.5

March 6th, 2016

 

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Patch 6.5 will go live in the early hours of March 9th, assuming there are no delays. Here are its contents:

 

Balance

Skins

Miscellaneous

 

 

Champion Changes

 

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General

  • Tooltip fix: Now correctly states Gnar’s AA range in Mega form is 175, not 150;
  • Base Attack Damage increased by 3 (from 48 to 51 in Mini form and 54 to 57 in Mega).

 

 

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Buff BoxDevastating Charge Final IconDevastating Charge [ E ]

  • The knockback distance now scales with the distance Hecarim has traveled during [ E ], up to a 50% increase in knockback distance.

 

 

Jarvan IV Final Portrait

 

Buff BoxGolden_AegisGolden Aegis [ W ]

  • Cooldown decreased from 20/18/16/14/12 seconds to 12 at all ranks.

 

 

Buff BoxCataclysm Final IconCataclysm [ R ]

  • Mana cost decreased from 100/125/150 to 100 at all ranks;
  • Now deals full damage to enemies in a small area around the original target.

 

 

Kogmaw Final Portrait

General

  • Attack Speed-per-level increased from 1.5% to 3.5%.

 

Buff BoxCaustic Spittle Final IconCaustic Spittle [ Q ]

  • Mana cost decreased from 60 at all ranks to 40.

 

 

Nerf BoxBio Arcane Barrage Final IconBio-Arcane Barrage [ W ]

  • Passive removed (no longer gives 15/20/25/30/35/40% bonus Attack Speed);
  • Active grants an additional 10/15/20/25/30 magic damage on-hit.

 

 

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Nerf BoxRiptide Final IconRiptide [ E ]

  • Base damage decreased from 60/95/130/165/200 to 55/85/115/145/175.

 

 

 

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Nerf BoxHeartseeker Strike Final IconHeartseeker Strike [ E ]

  • Total damage decreased from 80/140/220/260/320 [+3.6 Bonus AD] to 80/130/180/230/280 [+3.0 Bonus AD];
  • Minion damage increased from 50% to 60% (roughly the same damage after the nerfs);
  • Tooltip has been reworked: it now notes the total damage against champions, with a white counter below that notes the damage-per-strike.

 


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  • Mana cost decreased from 125 at all ranks to 100;
  • Mana refund for cancelling the channel has been removed (85 mana refund on live);
  • Cooldown after cancelling the channel increased from 10 seconds to 30.

 

 

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Change BoxSlice_and_DiceSlice and Dice [ E ]

  • Fury gained for hitting non-Champion targets with Dice decreased from 2.5 to 2;
  • Slice now generates 2 Fury for non-Champion targets and 10 for Champion targets (doesn’t generate any Fury on live).

 

 

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  • While in Dominus, Renekton gains 25 bonus auto-attack range which doesn’t apply for his W;
  • Bonus Health changed from 200/400/800 to 250/500/750.

 

 

Sejuani Final Portrait

 

Permafrost [ E ]  Buff BoxPermafrost Final Icon

  • Base damage increased from 60/90/120/150/180 to 80/105/130/155/180.

 

 

 

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Change BoxStarcall Final IconStarcall [ Q ]

  • Mana cost decreased from 70/75/80/85/90 to 40 at all ranks;
  • Cooldown decreased from 7/6.5/6/5.5/5 seconds to 5 at all ranks;
  • Now slows all targets hit by Starcall, regardless of whether they were in the center or not (slow range up from 110 to 265);
  • Hitting an enemy Champion now grants Soraka “Rejuvenation” for 4 seconds, which restores 14/16/18/20/22 [+0.1 AP] health-per-second and grants 15% Movement Speed when not moving toward enemy Champions;
  • Updated Starcall’s visual effects to better match the area of effect (no gameplay changes to range).

 

Change BoxAstral Infusion Final IconAstral Infusion [ W ]

  • Base heal decreased from 120/150/180/210/240 to 80/110/140/170/200;
  • Self-heal mechanic on Q vs enemy Champions removed (25/35/45/55/65 [+0.4 AP] on live);
  • If cast while under the effect of Rejuvenation, Soraka will give her target “Rejuvenation” for 3/3.5/4/4.5/5 seconds (based on Q rank, buff gives identical stats to the ally);
  • No longer able to target minions.

 

 

Talon Final Portrait

 

Nerf BoxShadow Assault Final IconShadow Assault [ R ]

  • Mana cost increased from 80/90/100 to 100 at all ranks;
  • Cooldown increased from 75/65/55 seconds to 100/80/60.

 

 

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General

  • Base Attack Damage increased from 52 to 54.

 

Nerf BoxTerror Capacitator Final IconTerror Capacitor [ W ]

  • Duration of shield decreased from 7 seconds to 5.

 

 

Buff BoxHyper Kinetic Position Reverser Final IconHyper-Kinetic Position Reverser [ R ]

  • Now additionally fears all targets around the swapped target for 1.5 seconds in a 375 radius (after the swap completes).

 

 

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Buff BoxExcessive Force Final IconExcessive Force [ E ]

  • Mana cost decreased from 60 at all ranks to 40/45/50/55/60;
  • Base damage increased from 5/20/35/50/65 to 10/30/50/70/90.

 

 

Item Changes

 

Buff BoxGuardian Angel Final IconGuardian Angel

  • Recipe cost decreased from 1380 Gold to 1180 (total cost down from 2900 Gold to 2700);
  • On revival, restores either 700 Health or 30% of your maximum health, whichever value is higher.

 

 

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  • Devourer stacks granted for killing the Herald decreased from 5 to 2.

 

 

 

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Death Blossom Kha’Zix will be available in store for 975 RP.

 

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Elderwood LeBlanc will be available in store for 1350 RP.

 

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Elderwood LeBlanc Model 1 Elderwood LeBlanc Model 2

 

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Hextech Annie will NOT be available for purchase! It’s a reward for getting 10 gemstones from the Hextech Crafting system (read below for details):

 

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Hextech Annie Model 1 Hextech Annie Model 2

Hextech Annie Passive 1

 

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Hextech Annie Recall 1 Hextech Annie Recall 2

 

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Hextech Annie Basic Attack 1 Hextech Annie Basic Attack 2

 

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Hextech Annie Q 1 Hextech Annie Q 2

 

INCINERATE W

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Hextech Annie crafting and gemstones

Riot Mirross Final PortraitHi all!

Everyone’s favorite combo of sugar, spice, nice, and plenty of burning is getting a new skin as part of hextech crafting and loot. In order to secure appropriate testing for Hextech Annie, we’re putting her and her hextechnically-augmented Tibbers on PBE early, but don’t expect her to debut with the launch of hextech crafting and loot.

Featuring an all-new model, textures, animations and particle effects as well as new sounds, Hextech Annie is intended to be available exclusively through hextech crafting and the loot system by acquiring 10 gemstones either in normal chests and promotional chests through rare drops or by picking up special promo chest bundles (which’ll guarantee a gemstone drop). Gemstones are rare loot drops that can be crafted into a chest and key bundle or saved to combine to craft Hextech Annie.

Promo chests will only be available at limited times and may have different content inside compared to normal chests. For testing on the PBE, we’ve unlocked Hextech Promo Chest bundles in the store so players can pick up Hextech Annie as soon as possible. During this test, buying one of the 10-chest bundles guarantees a gemstone in addition to the gemstones you can find in the chests themselves.

As we mentioned at the beginning, Hextech Annie won’t be available at the launch of hextech crafting and loot. We’ll test her on PBE before testing her release to live servers in Turkey (where we’ve been testing hextech crafting and loot for a little while now). When hextech crafting and loot debut on all live servers, Hextech Annie will follow shortly after.

Lastly, we’re pretty sure everyone’s used to this by now, but please keep in mind the promo chests have been heavily discounted for testing on PBE, and the drop rates of items in the chests may also change before we go live.

Leave your feedback on the skin or even the idea of a free, exclusive skin in hextech crafting below, and we’ll see you on the PBE battlefields!

  • Mirross

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The Hextech Ward skin will (probably) be available for 640 RP.

 

Hextech Ward 2 Hextech Ward 1

 

 

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This is a new in-client system that nets you rewards like skins and Champions. Below I’ve written down all the ways you can earn content and craft:

 

You’ll need Hextech Keys and Hextech Chests. You’ll earn Hextech Keys for winning matchmade games (meaning any game type except Custom games).

Chests are trickier; they’re rewards for performing well on a particular Champion. You earn chests through the Mastery system, but keep in mind that you can only earn one chest per season with a given Champion. Every time you get an S rank, you’ll get a chest, up to a maximum of four chests per month.

Alternatively, you can buy both keys and chests for 125 RP each in the store.

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There are unique, RP-exclusive chests called “premium chests”. These contain more loot and can be bought in a bundle with a key for 195 RP. There’s also a separate opening animation for these that’s different from the one for default chests you get for S ranks:

Premium Chests

Premium Chest 1 Premium Chest 2

 

Once you have a pair, you can open chests using keys through the interface found by clicking on the shard icon below your username. After the animation, you’ll receive either a Champion Shard, a Skin Shard, a Ward Skin Shard, Cosmic Essence, Champion Essence or a combination of all those. Note that a chest will never contain essence only.

 

Think of Champion and Skin Shards as tickets for temporary access to Champions. You can do four things with those.

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First, you can re-roll both types of Shards into permanent Champions or Skins, respectively. To do so, you’ll need three Shards. The catch? Your reward is random.

 

You can disenchant both Champion Shards and Skin Shards for Champion Essence and Skins Essence, respectively.

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You’ll need this essence to upgrade Champion Shards and Skin Shards into specific permanent Champions and Skins.

 

Lastly, you can rent Champions and Skins for 7 days. This will use up their respective Shards.

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The rent period will be displayed on your Summoner Profile. It’s also the place where you can check how many chests you can unlock until the end of the month and what Champions you’ve already unlocked a chest with.

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Sometimes you’ll find Rare Gems in your chests. These contain one chest and one key.

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You can earn Ward Skin Shards through these chests. These work the same way as regular Skin Shards.

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You can also earn Summoner Icons. These will instantly be added to your account.

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The store has received a visual overhaul. Here are screenshots of all the menus:

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Cho’gath has received new spell icons. From left to right: Passive, Q, W, E and R:

GreenTerror_TailSpike GreenTerror_SpikeSlam GreenTerror_FeralScream GreenTerror_ChitinousExoplates GreenTerror_Feast

 


If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

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Balance

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[ Reminder ] The PBE is a testing ground for changes. What you see here may not reflect what you see in Patch Notes. Remember that developers want your feedback so if you disagree with a change, you can always submit your thoughts on the PBE Community Forums.

 

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Check out Elderwood LeBlanc and Hextech Annie!

 

 

Champion Changes

 

Jarvan IV Final Portrait

 

Revert BoxDragon Strike Final IconDragon Strike [ Q ]

  • Mana cost increased from 40/45/50/55/60 to 45/50/55/60/65 [revert on the change in this PBE update].

 

Buff BoxGolden_AegisGolden Aegis [ W ]

  • Cooldown decreased from 20/18/16/14/12 seconds to 12 at all ranks.

 

 

 

Kogmaw Final Portrait

General

  • Attack Speed-per-level increased from 3% to 3.5%. [change compared to this PBE update, live value is 1.5%]

 

Revert BoxCaustic Spittle Final Icon

Caustic Spittle [ Q ]

  • Armor/MR shred decreased from 20/25/30/35/40% to 12/16/20/24/28% [revert on the change in this PBE update].

 

Revert BoxLiving Artillery Final IconLiving Artillery [ R ]

  • Duration of stacking mana cost debuff increased from 6 seconds t0 10 [revert].

 

 

 

Sejuani Final Portrait

 

Revert BoxPermafrost Final IconPermafrost [ E ]

  • Active can no longer be triggered off slows from allies [revert on the change in this PBE update].

 

 

 

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Nerf BoxShadow Assault Final IconShadow Assault [ R ]

  • Mana cost increased from 80/90/100 to 100 at all ranks;
  • Cooldown increased from 75/65/55 seconds to to 100/80/60.

 

 

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Buff BoxExcessive Force Final IconExcessive Force [ E ]

  • Base damage increased from 5/20/35/50/65 to 10/30/50/70/90.

 

 

 

Item Changes

 

Nerf BoxDevourer Final IconDevourer Enchantment

  • Magic damage on-hit decreased from 30 to 25;
  • Stacks required for Sated Devourer increased from 30 to 35.

 

 

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The store has received a visual overhaul. Here are screenshots of all the menus:

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com

 

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Will skins in the future be delayed past their relevant event

KateyKhaos Final PortraitWe’ve stated that we’ve got some stuff planned for Snowdown. In a case like that, yes, skins would be held for that event. There will still be instances where you won’t see a champion skin for a bit due to them being a part of an event/group of skins that will be released.

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What’s the status of Shens rework

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Meddler Final PortraitIt’s high ish on our list of smaller reworks (smaller as in some gameplay changes, with visual/audio changes as needed to support those, rather than a full relaunch). Marksmen polish, bug fixing and followup, plus Poppy, are the champion update team’s big priorities at the moment though. Shen’s rework definitely won’t be this year, early next year’s looking like it could be feasible though.

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Do youve an ETA for when Akalis rework will be released

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Meddler Final PortraitWe don’t have a timeline for Akali at present. Could be a moderate time after Shen, could be a long time after.

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Why not tackle assassins after your Juggernaut Marksman updates

Meddler Final PortraitWe haven’t decided which class to tackle after marksmen. Assassins are definitely a possibility, but still just one of several options we’re talking about. If doing assassins we’d definitely want to sync an Akali rework with that of course.

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Do youve any plans for Talon

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Meddler Final PortraitIt’d be good to do some work on him someday, give him some more distinction from standard assassin tools, a more meaningful passive and better counterplay. No current plans for that though, that’ll likely wait until we tackle assassins at a group whenever that is.

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Whats happening with the Taric rework

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Meddler Final PortraitFor quite a long time we were blocked from working on Taric because we hadn’t found what we felt was the right way to update him without losing core parts of his character. A little while back we found a direction that we’re really happy with, so we’re now in a position where we can look at putting him into the pipeline.

Progress in terms of direction and goals basically, rather than progress in terms of producing the actual character for the game.

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Will the new Champion Select roll out to ARAM 3v3 and Dominion

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[ Note ] You can find an in-game preview of the new Champion Select HERE.

Lyte Final PortraitWe have to first finish the “Blind Pick” version of this experience, then we’ll figure out how we want to tackle unique maps.

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Four premades in SoloQ will have full control over the surrender vote

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s pretty easy to detect if 4:1 premades are surrendering too early, holding the 5th player hostage, so on and so forth. It’s also super easy to resolve, including things like forcing 4:1 premades to have unanimous votes to trigger a Surrender. At the end of the day, there’s way less toxicity to 4:1 situations than players are portraying right now.

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Will we ever get the chance to kick a player from Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitThe new Champ Select should solve a lot of conflicts because of the system design and things like Pick Intent, Pick 2 Positions, and Distributed Bans. However, if there are still meaningful negative experiences in Champ Select, we’ve considered allowing players to queue dodge and “report” a player and supply a reason. If the reported player was being toxic, we could make sure there’s no queue dodge penalties. But, for us to do this feature there would need to be meaningful Champ Select toxicity, say greater than 5% of lobbies.

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Will you solve the issue of players trollbanning other peoples pick intents

Lyte Final PortraitIf a player wants to troll, they are going to find a way to do it whether Pick Intent exists or not.

We believe Pick Intent is still a net-positive feature, and provides more value than damage. What we did notice was that by introducing Distributed Bans, far less players trolled Pick Intent. Because nearly every player has a “powerful” choice in Champ Select (whether it’s a ban, or 1st/2nd pick), players are less likely to troll one another in the drafting process because that other player could counter you with something equally damaging.

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How do you plan to balance premade groups playing in high ELO queues

Lyte Final PortraitThere’s a weird misconception around high MMR queues.

We can’t predict exactly what will happen, but here’s a few scenarios:

1) High MMR players will group together with their high MMR friends, and we’ll get to watch some pretty crazy matches between players from different pro teams queuing together. This will be highly competitive and entertaining.

2) High MMR players will decide to all go solo, so it’ll be just like Solo/Duo Queue today except sometimes they’ll face off against premade teams from a lower skill tier.

High MMR players are already waiting in queues and being repeatedly matched with lower tier players, or placed with teams that have Duo Queues of lower skill. This already happens, and won’t be fixed with Dynamic Queues. It’s not really easy to fix the problem of “not enough high tier players” in a queue 😛

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Why do the last three players in the new Champ Select get to ban

Lyte Final PortraitPlayer 1 and 2 get first and second pick, which we’ve seen are also “valuable” choices in Champ Select.

Whether we add more bans or not is a super complex topic that Ghostcrawler or Meddler have talked about before, so I don’t want to dig into it here again.

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What if a team with one Bronze Silver Gold Plat Diamond player queues

Lyte Final PortraitYou can’t even create that team because Tier Restrictions still exist in Dynamic Queues. Your team has to be within 2 tiers of each other.

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Will we be able to trade picks in the new Champ Select

Lyte Final PortraitYes, there’s still a Trade Phase in the new Champ Select.

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Can we just fill any team role

Lyte Final PortraitYou can do this! Just select “Fill” as your Primary position and queue up.

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What if I get countered or the Champions for the role I picked are banned

Lyte Final PortraitActually, just like in today’s Champ Select, if you really have to you can negotiate with your team to swap positions. Just like today, you could go, “Hey guys, I really can’t do well versus a Darius Top, anyone mind swapping positions with me?”

We’re not removing any functionality, you can still do this stuff today.

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Premade groups will ruin Solo Queue in Master Challenger ELOs

Lyte Final PortraitI’ll be honest, anyone that says they can predict how Dynamic Queues will shake out for high MMR players is just making a wild assumption at this time.

Even we can’t make a prediction about what will happen, but we can map out the scenarios. IF Dynamic Queues are dramatically destroying the experience for many players, we’ll know and we’ll figure out how to solve it. To say we should never try something because of a hypothetical scenario is being risk-averse. We have to be OK taking risks once in awhile if we want to keep pushing League’s potential.

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Will we be able to lock Champions to prevent them from being banned

Lyte Final PortraitWhen we introduced Pick Intent, it was critical that we also introduce Distributed Bans. Because every player has a “powerful” choice in Champ Select (either 1st/2nd pick, or a ban) we saw less trolling of Pick Intent because every player had some leverage over the other players. It’s a weird dynamic, but Distributed Bans were effective in reducing trolling. We do not intend on allowing players to “lock” something from being banned during Pick Intent because that could introduce far more damage than positive in the long run–imagine preventing a ban of an S-Tier champion that gets first picked by the opposing team. Chaos would ensue.

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Can we be allowed to report players during Champion Select

Lyte Final PortraitNot at this time. If there are still significant toxicity issues in Champ Select, we may introduce a feature to allow a player to dodge, and report a player and supply a reason for their dodge. With some machine learning magic, we could assess this report in real-time and remove any potential queue dodge penalties as well. But, this feature is pretty costly, so it’d have to be worth doing.

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Have you considered allowing players to queue for one role only

Lyte Final PortraitOne of the big criticisms of Team Builder Classic was queue times, so forcing everyone to choose at least 2 positions really, really improves queue times and ensures queue health. By allowing players to only select 1 position (even if they understand they are waiting longer to play that 1 position), it significantly influences the entire matchmaking ecosystem if only 20% of players choose 1 position only. To us, it’s not worth damaging the entire health of the queue to give players this amount of control.

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Why not group premades with premades rather than with solo players

Lyte Final PortraitThis pretty much already happens. We’ve made a few changes to the matchmaker so similar group comps are paired against each other. Premade 5s pair more with Premade 5s, before being paired with 4:1 or 3:2 for example. I’ll also note that really, the vast majority of players wanted Dynamic Queues, but of course Reddit is a pretty hardcore demographic and once a thread swings one direction, generally the opposition are not going to jump in to voice an opinion. Most players also don’t realize when they are in games with premades. Nearly 100% of Ranked Games has a Duo Queue today, but players only remember the games when Duo Queues were negative.

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Wont queues be just as long as with Team Builder if no one picks Support

Lyte Final PortraitActually, with the “Fill” position, we’re in a pretty good spot for position distributions. We’re also willing to incentivize the in-demand positions with some small bonuses from the future crafting system.

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Heroes of the Storm had groups in Solo Queue and the feature was removed

Lyte Final PortraitTo be clear, Blizzard’s reasons had to do with skill disparity and variance on teams.

We’ve added multiple matchmaking features that solve this problem including Tier Restrictions (you can’t queue with friends beyond a certain tier in skill). Also, CS:GO has a Dynamic Queue system that works pretty well, so you can’t just point to 1 game and say “it’s a bad idea because that game moved away from it.”

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Lyte Final PortraitWe’re also doing a lot of features like Clubs to help players find more friends to play with, and make more friends. We don’t have to do one or the other, we have to try many things!

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Why not split your feature into a Solo Queue and Small Group Queue

Lyte Final PortraitSplitting the queues into a Pure Solo and Group Queue would have all the queue health problems that we (and other studios) have faced before. When you have a smaller playerbase on a server like Turkey, both queues would be negative experiences. The more you segregate your playerbase, the worse the experience in each island.

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Why not add voice chat if youre trying to make League more teamoriented

Lyte Final PortraitWe’ve been doing a lot of research on voice chat and the impact it has on the game experience. We have some ideas for how we’d like to solve the negatives that voice chat has, but no teams are actively working on integrated voice chat for League. As you can tell with the 2016 Ranked changes, we are trying to make League more of a team sport, which does make voice comms more valuable.

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Skill ranking is irrelevant to how effective group matchmaking is

Lyte Final PortraitWhen players make statements like “Skill Ranking” means nothing, it might not actually reflect reality.

What does it mean for “Skill Ranking” to mean something? Technically, it means things like if I have Player A (1200 MMR) against Player B (1200 MMR) they will reliably win 50% of their matches against each other over 100s of games. It means things like if I have Player A (1240 MMR) against Player B (1200 MMR), Player A will win their matches 54% of the time if you’re using the basic Elo equation from Chess. Of course, this is a simplified model because most PvP games are team-based so there’s additional variables… but you get the point.

I don’t think players can concretely say that in CS:GO, the Dynamic Queue system is so bad that a significant number of matchups are erroneous and therefore Skill Rating means nothing. On average, a higher skill player will still beat a lower skill player. The question is, how consistently does this happen? If a higher skill player beats a lower skill player at a predictable % of the time, I think the system is working effectively. If a higher skill player should beat a lower skill player 60% of the time, but only beats them 40% of the time on average, something is broken.

I may have gotten a bit too into the math weeds here, but unless you can see the data like Valve (or like us), you can’t simply conclude that Skill Ratings mean nothing in Dynamic Queues. Could it become less accurate than before? Yes. However, if 30% more players enjoy Ranked, and Skill Rating means 2% less… is that a valuable tradeoff? Maybe. Until we try this out for a bit, we don’t know what those numbers will be and what the tradeoffs are, so it’s too early to make wild assumptions.

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Why do you think 41 queues will level out at 50 winrate for the solo player

Lyte Final PortraitWe’ve dug into examples like this many times before, and it’s generally because the Normal MMRs of the players don’t reflect their Ranked MMRs. This is a known problem that we have some fixes for called “Splashing.” Basically, as your Ranked MMR increases, we “splash” some points into the other queue MMRs to make sure they are all tied a bit closer. But, in practice this didn’t work too well because a lot of higher tier players mess around in Normals or only want to play casual in Normals with friends, so they DIDN’T want their Ranked MMR to affect other queues.

Long story short, it does look bad, but actually if you look at the matches holistically, you still have very close to a 50% win rate in those matches.

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Why not learn from Normal games how premade behavior affects queues

Lyte Final PortraitThis is exactly why we’d like to work in Normal Draft Queues first, because they are a close model of how a Dynamic Queue might work. We’re also testing “Ranked Queues” in NA and TR, to get an even closer model of how things might shake out.

We’ll know more soon, we just need players to give us a chance to try things before jumping up in arms and condemning it. We aren’t crazy, and we know this is risky–but, we want to try.

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How did you gather data that suggests most players want Dynamic Ranked

Lyte Final PortraitWe run random sample surveys across the entire global playerbase regularly, so we tend to get a nice representative response from all demographics–the hardcore, the average, the player that never visits forums, the player that visits Reddit 8x a day, etc.

 

The truth is, in every survey we’ve done, the majority of players were interested in Dynamic Queue. That doesn’t mean we just use that data point and force Dynamic Queue on everyone because we also saw that a non-trivial number of players were solo purists, and loved the idea of “true” Solo Queue and their experiences may get slightly worse because of Dynamic Queue. So, we assessed all the potential negatives that Dynamic Queue had, and implemented upgrades or new features that tried to address them. Did we succeed in making it overall a great experience for the vast majority of players? We don’t know yet. We need to try, collect data, learn, and iterate.

That’s how design is.

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I think the queue change will contribute to the communitys declining skill level

Lyte Final PortraitI don’t believe skill level required to be a top tier player has diminished over time. In fact, it’s increased over time.

1) When you look at Ranked data, most players are only proficient at 2 positions. 2.2, to be specific. There wasn’t really a time period in League history where players were proficient at all 5 positions. In the new Champ Select, you still have to master at least 2 positions to rank up effectively.

2) As the game has matured, the skill level required to compete has only steadily increased. There are more websites, guides, blogs, deep analysis on game mechanics than ever before which is improving education of players on game mastery. There is more infrastructure in eSports (for highschool, colleges, and pro) than ever before, and it’s greatly improving the ‘average’ skill level of top players. 4-5 years ago, there was no true understanding of ‘optimal’ ways to play the game, and you didn’t have to understand little nuances to be in the Top 500 players in the world. Today, by about Level 15, players already are beginning to get a feel for the meta, what champions are effective at what positions, etc. A top player today would absolutely crush a top player from a few years ago.

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What the majority of players want may not be whats good for the community

Lyte Final PortraitIt’s getting late–I need to get some rest so will skip some of your bigger discussions for now. At the risk of sounding offensive (which is NOT my intention with this reply), couldn’t we use the same arguments against solo purists? What if Dynamic Queue is something solo purists say they don’t want, but actually is better for them in the long run too?

 

My point is, I agree that players sometimes say one thing, but mean another. Or, sometimes players really don’t know what they actually want. But, I’d be wary assuming “the other population” is the one that doesn’t know what they want, and your population knows exactly what you want and that you must be right. It’s a game designer’s job to try to figure out the reality behind the fog, and try to understand what is actually the best experience–but I’ll be the first to say that it’s hard, and sometimes we’ll get it wrong. This might be one of those times, it might not be. But, we’re willing to give it a go and pivot as necessary–even if it’s mid-season.

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Marksman Update in the 2016 Season

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Ezreal Final PortraitChampion Update team here! While you’ve probably already seen the big changes due for marksmen (if you haven’t, check it all out here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/preseason.html ), we wanted to set aside a moment for a deeper dive. The new marksmen update comes hot on the heels of the juggernauts update (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/gameplay-update-juggernauts ) and, with so much changing so fast, we think it’s a good idea to pause for a more philosophical reflection.

But first, a quick look back.

When we set out to tackle the juggernauts, we were working with a whole lot of unknowns. This was a set of champions that didn’t have much in the way of strategic identity. By really highlighting their strengths, we gave them clear ways to succeed (and fail) in an unfamiliar environment. Making something from nothing is a really interesting space to work in and we think we’ve achieved our philosophical goal with many of them. The tricky bit, however, was calibrating the juggernaut’s appropriate weaknesses against their raw power.

With marksmen, we have a few advantages. First, because the class as a whole already has a clear function and they’re played in pretty much every game of League, we have a much stronger understanding of their capabilities and expectations. Additionally, because the core weakness of every marksman is “blow ‘em up,” they have some pretty clear checks in place when it comes to solo-carrying games.

Looking forward, our vision remains consistent: We want to give each updated champion a unique reason to be brought to a game, and we want each champion to feel different whether playing against, as, or with. For some, this means sharpening what they already do well, or should do well. For others, it means finding new elements that make them feel special. We want you to have a reason to pick Graves over Lucian, and vice-versa, outside of just dealing more damage.

Our additional goal is to ensure basic attacks between marksmen are as differentiated as possible. This is a new goal that’s very important for this group in particular, given how reliant they are on basic attacks.

Let’s take a closer look at some of the changes. We’ll be throwing out a high-level overview of the updates before we go a little deeper on the philosophy behind them, in case you haven’t checked out the site.

 

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“This calls for the ol’ double-barreled ‘Hello.’”

Graves’ double-barreled shotgun is one of the most distinctive weapons in the marksman arsenal. However, this weapon was underutilized as a kind of mid-range, burst, poke, cone spell. So we doubled-down on the classic shotgun fantasy. Now Graves’ basic attacks fire four rounds (eight on a crit!) in a cone in front of him, dealing damage and knocking back minions. Graves has tradeoffs for this unique mechanic, as he has to reload after firing two rounds (but can quickly reload via Quickdraw), and his basic attacks can be body-blocked.

Because we basically pushed Graves’ Q onto his basic attack, we decided to give him a new Q in the form of End of the Line, where he fires out an explosive canister, leaving behind a trail of gunpowder. That canister then explodes after a few seconds (or immediately on colliding with a wall) and detonates the gunpowder for additional damage.

With the defensive buff from Quickdraw and his incredibly high threat on close-range targets, Graves is the kind of marksman you want to bring when enemies have a lot of backline access (see: diving assassins). The tradeoff here is that Graves loses out on a lot of long-range target selection that other marksmen have, since his basic attacks can’t go over enemies.

The changes focuses on pushing Graves’ identity as a close-range, brawling marksman, and we’re excited to see how he does once he gets into the fight.

 

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“Justice takes wing.”

Despite its innate coolness factor, Quinn’s old ultimate still had problems. It forced her into overwhelming danger, often leading to trades at the cost of her life (not a great deal!). We are re-imagining her ultimate to play up its tag-team, high-speed nature: Valor now swoops down to carry Quinn, giving her massive out-of-combat mobility. This sharpens Quinn’s identity as a rapid-response marksman. Quinn can aid skirmishes in the jungle, swap lanes to help ganks, respond to split-pushes (or split-push herself), and make it back in time to help with a team fight. Need eyes on Baron? Send Quinn to scout it out!

 

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“Bombs away!”

Corki, the Daring Bombardier, hasn’t been very true to his title. Optimal play for Corki was to play it safe and poke from a distance; he lacked the tools to make big plays. We decided to fix this in an… explosive way. With the addition of Special Delivery – a single-time upgrade to Valkyrie that amps up the damage, range, and disruption of the ability – Corki needs to focus on what sort of decisive action he’ll take to capitalize on the skill. It won’t be easy, but the reward is huge.

Finally, to further push Corki’s identity as the magic damage marksman, his auto-attacks now deal split magic/physical damage and his gatling gun shreds both resists. This allows teams to build around Corki being the primary magic damage dealer, something rather unique in the strategic space of marksmen.

 

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“Fortune doesn’t favor fools.”

Miss Fortune has been synonymous with the famed WOMBO COMBO since she first strutted onto the Rift, though much less so after frequent nerfs to Bullet Time. We wanted the WOMBO back, so we increased her ult’s duration by 50% and increased the number of bullet waves as the game progresses by… a lot.

As for her new passive, we drew a lot of inspiration from Double Up. In lane, Miss Fortune draws tons of strength from her Q, especially in a 2v2 scenario where she can put a lot of pressure on both targets if they don’t position properly. These changes are our way of doubling… down on that thematic, with more rewards for precise target juggling and positioning (the precision is important as well, as there are champions like Varus or Twitch who excel at dumping out a lot of group AoE damage).

 

Caitlyn Final Portrait

“Meet the long gun of the law.”

For Caitlyn, we had to ask ourselves, “How much further can we push the sharpshooter fantasy?” The answer: Like, a lot further. By giving Caitlyn massive range on any enemy she can net or trap, we’re emphasizing her sharpshooting strengths. Giving Yordle Snap Trap an ammo system amplifies Cait’s natural ability to create choke points, while also improving her ability to dominate territory around objectives. The choice between spreading traps for surprise ambushes and setting up lines of defense gives you different ways to capitalize on Cait’s role as League’s #1 sniper elite.

 

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“Feeding time!”

Everyone’s favorite Void puppy just got even more adorabler. Kog’Maw already has a familiar identity in his “Protect the Kog” team comp, but we felt we could amplify it while also separating him from other tank busters. Now, Kog’s Bio-Arcane Barrage doubles his attack speed and attack speed cap, up to five attacks per second (!!!). This makes him the quintessential attack speed “proc” champion, a low-mobility machine-gun of death. It does wonders for creating a unique itemization path and, of course, it makes him look way cooler.

As a quick note for Living Artillery: Changing the damage from raw poke to execution allows Kog to differentiate himself from other long-range pokers. Kog by himself might not make for the perfect poke composition, but if you combine him with enough additional pressure, he can pick off fleeing enemies while also becoming a central damage turret for his team.


So those are our rough thoughts on the update. We’d love to hear yours as you test the changes in action (soon), but these, in tandem with the marksmen itemization update, should bring some interesting changes to the class as a whole.

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Whyd you gut Miss Fortunes dueling potential in her Preseason rework

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Ezreal Final PortraitI can understand that feeling, whenever we refocus a champion’s design we will have to take power away from one area in order to place it into another. In MF’s case, we certainly took down her dueling potential a notch. Though in doing so, we’ve given her a much more solidified role in the aoe carry. She has even more incentives to pass damage around to multiple targets.

Ps. You are a badass for running jungle MF, how the heck did you do it?

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Is her new Love Taps passive a gimmicky bonus or a necessity on her kit

Ezreal Final PortraitOne of the problems with ADCs was that they all had the exact same play pattern. Part of our update is focusing on changing it up a bit. For example, Graves reallllly wants to get in close, Kog’Maw needs to plan ahead of time for his damage window, etc. For MF, she can still certainly get off a ton of damage on a single target, it just isn’t as free as before. Her bonus attack speed is actually far larger than before, just for a far shorter window of time. So now she chooses between short duels and long form target swapping.

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Whyd you make the more minor ADC changes for example to Ashes Q

Ezreal Final PortraitUnsure as to which Q change you are talking about, though I’ll chat about the main two. We made it only castable at 5 stacks since the ability was didn’t propose a good choice. Either you cast it well at 5 stacks and got a fantastic benefit, or you cast it below 5 and went home sad. For the cooldown removal, we really wanted to let players push the limits of the spell. If they were able to keep it up all the time, then they deserved to be rewarded!

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Are there any plans to update Ezreals W

Ezreal Final PortraitThere are no current plans to update Ezreal’s W. I do have to admit, I would love to see us update that ability with something far more interesting, but that is a change for the future.

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DEV BLOG Vision in the 2016 Season

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Pwyff Final Portrait Posting for Xypherous!

We’ve generally been happy with some of the new vision mechanics in the game with the advent of Season 5. However, as the vision system has grown organically over time, the map has become increasingly brighter and brighter since Season 4.

Additionally, the amount of unused trinkets and profusion of various vision types made it hard to consider expansions onto an already bloated system so this Season will mostly focus around concentrating the vision game to fewer discrete points.

Sight_Ward

First off, we’ve removed Green Wards. This is a pretty big sledgehammer to vision overall and the map is significantly darker because of it. We heard a lot of feedback on this and I wanted to give more context:

When vision is in a “consumable” state, it does a few things to the game that we want to change. First, because map knowledge is so powerful, the ideal state of vision for two teams is basically “as much as you can.” That means that teams will be perpetually funneling their excess gold (or in the case of supports and some junglers, their core gold income) into as much vision upkeep as possible. The compelling decision of when to ward and where to ward gets flattened.

For supports, engaging so heavily with the vision system means they’ll often need to give up late-game purchases and slot efficiency to ensure the map is well lit. For others, it becomes a gold dump to push an advantage. By taking all ‘safe’ vision (invisible wards) out of the gold stream and placing them on meaningfully gated cooldowns, teams will have to think a lot more about where they want to set up on the map, rather than it being a given luxury for who can do it.

In addition to the removal of Green Wards, we’re also doing the following changes:

vision ward

Pink Wards will still remain buyable and represent an investment into permanent vision control over an area. They’re also slightly cheaper and fall into Sight Ward’s original cost range.

  • Trinkets

The Trinket System has been streamlined down to 2 basic options, plus 2 “alterations” that become available at Level 9. Trinkets also now continuously improve with level rather than at discrete levels in the game.

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Warding Totem will now behave like the upgraded Warding Totem on live which slowly charges up to store additional wards. The duration and charges have been tweaked to increase continuously with character level.

We like the flexibility and general gameplay of the upgraded trinket as it allows you to maintain vision over a small area for a long time or tactically cover a wide area by yourself if you’ve built up charges over time – giving it a much wider range of potential uses.

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Sweeping Lens has taken a hit in power now that there aren’t potentially green wards everywhere.

To compensate, red gains the ability to warn against things that you can’t see in the area letting you know the shape or silhouette of things in fog of war without revealing them directly. This includes things like jungler monsters (check if that camp is up!) and Pink Wards, in addition to providing the silhouette of stealthed threats like champions in brush, fog of war or stealth.

Sweeping Lens’ core functionality becomes alerting you as to whether or not anything in the swept area can detect you and allowing you to disable them.

  • “Alterations”

Instead of upgrades, which are strictly better than the original trinket that you have, we’ve instead chosen to move in the direction of side-grading and altering existing functionality of trinkets.

These swap the functionality of your existing trinket by improving the power of some aspects and decreasing the power in other aspects.

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Yellow Trinket’s alteration – the Farsight Totem is unlocked at level 9 and functions similarly to the Farsight Orb on live with some improvements. You gain vastly increased range and a shorter cooldown… at the expense of having visible wards and losing the ability to build charges.

In a departure from live, these “blue” wards now last forever and don’t count towards your ward count. Since these wards are easily destructible by opponents, we don’t foresee this as contributing significantly to the overall vision of the map unless a team decides to use multiple blue trinkets in parallel to light up disparate regions of the map over time.

So you can light up the map as long as you do it as part of an ongoing campaign to hold territory for extended periods of time.

Oracle's_Lens_item

The Sweeping Lens’ alteration – the Oracle Lens (also unlocked at 9) – is more tame in comparison and very similar to the Oracle upgrade on live. In lieu of gaining true sight, the red trinket simply has a much wider sweep range and follows you around for 10 seconds.

However, combined with the fact that red trinket can warn you against enemy units that you can’t see – this means it will also provide a proximity check so you don’t walk headlong into an enemy ward or brush.

  • Closing

Vision remains an important key strategic strength in League of Legends. The current vision system has a ton of small moving parts, as well as a few mechanics that just make the system kind of obtuse to interact with.

We want to streamline the existing vision items to a smaller core set of vision items while also allowing that core to branch out in interesting directions and overlapping functions. Overall, the power in vision should be more condensed in the options that remain.

We’re taking advantage of the overall reduction in small vision buys to offer more interesting total item build options in the form of the Sightstone upgrades or the Jungle enchantments. Our goal was not to make the overall vision experience more complicated, but allow vision options to form the basis for more interesting total builds. From the support who forgoes his actives in favor of a powerful AP build, to the support who doubles down on active items, to the Jungler who forgoes combat in favor of map wide vision and utility.

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Isnt the removal of Oracles Lens another indirect buff to stealth champions

Xypherous Final PortraitKind of? Other systematic changes such as Marksmen getting better kite / soak options / the removal of Brutalizer / the removal of Trailblazer and the like would probably be indirect nerfs to those characters.

The only stealth champions that haven’t been indirect nerf/buffed in a lot of ways is Akali / Evelyn / Twitch at this point. Eve has never been affected by the true sight from Oracles as her stealth shuts itself off and Akali’s stealth is rather situational.

Twitch, I agree might be a problem – but I’m not sure he was ever at a range to be detected by Oracles when he was murdering you in Stealth. Still – he’s probably the biggest beneficiary of the changes.

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Vaynes impossible to fight without an Oracles Lens

Xypherous Final PortraitTrue – but so much of her itemization has changed that it’s hard to tell whether she’s better or worse from a total power perspective.

BoRK is noticeably worse early now, for example – so her assassination playstyle kind of takes a hit.

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What about Shaco Rengar KhaZix and Vayne

Xypherous Final PortraitLoss of an early brutalizer and trailblazer hurts Rengar and Kha’zix pretty substantially I find. Similarly, Vayne and BoRK is no longer as powerful as an early power spike.

Shaco, on the other hand, builds whatever he wants – but Shaco is also likely affected by the loss of the early Brut as well.

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Do the Trinket changes mean people dont have to be reminded to upgrade them

Xypherous Final PortraitIt scales on a per level basis – so not for most roles. The goal is that people should only feel compelled to exchange their trinket when they want fundamentally different functionality – rather than just a more powerful version of their existing one.

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If upgrades are supposed to be sidegrades why are they still levelgated

Xypherous Final PortraitExcellent question. They’re level-gated because they’re meant to serve mid-game or late-game vision functions that would be overpowered in early game.

Because players don’t move around a lot in lane – things that can affect others at a long range or a wider area are significantly more powerful – hence the level-gate.

If you want to be really specific – the best trigger would probably be something like ‘Buyable after laning phase’ – unfortunately, there’s no real way to tell when it ends that organically in an understandable way – hence the level restriction.

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Why cant we have some way of recharging Sightstone outside the base

Xypherous Final PortraitThere’s are a couple of reasons why you want players returning to base on a regular cadence – doubly so for a class that doesn’t have much other reason to return as their item upgrades are relatively less important.

More practically, this favors the team that is pushed in rather than the team that is pushing in most respects – as the winning team is the one best suited to ‘waiting out in the field.’ We’d never really be able to put a recharge timer on it that seemed useful without causing some really weird side effects in this case.

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Why was ward duration decreased from 180 seconds to 150

Xypherous Final PortraitThe goal was to make the map overall darker and chip as much unnecessary vision power away as possible – hence the reduction. It also helps separate the two use cases out for vision a bit better – shorter term stealth vision vs. longer term control over an area.

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So Sightstone was nerfed even further and isnt worth a supports item slot

Xypherous Final PortraitThat’d be a perfectly reasonable response if the item isn’t worth the slot. If that was the right call to make, I’d expect most of our players to do the same and then we’d simply adjust.

Not entirely convinced the item is weaker given that it’s one of the few sources of invisible wards – so the relative strength should be incredibly high – but if that’s actually the case – yeah, you’d be wise to avoid buying the item entirely.

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There needs to be a Sightstoneesque item that works like a Sweeper trinket

Xypherous Final PortraitI could see that – but the conflicting data point for me here is that the reason why Sweeper’s have such a high hit rate on live is that there’s always wards up due to the prevalence of buyable green wards – at least at higher level play.

I’m uncertain as to how much value is lost as we’re moving from a mostly-lit world in which Sweeper has a fairly high hit rate – to a somewhat-dark world where the hit rate will be much lower.

Vision removal in the item system should be somewhat better covered by cheaper pink wards as well. It may still very well be the case that red trinket has no comparable option and thus Sightstones need to exist so that you can have a red trinket in your inventory – but I’m not inclined to say that this is actually a bad state.

Basically, what I’ve found is that more choices in how you spend gold in vision has mostly led to either negative or kind of poor game-play in general. Complex gold decisions around vision hasn’t yielded good returns in either skillful play (as you should sink as much as you can) or have been particularly satisfying without being brutally overpowered.

The approach we’re trying this season focuses more around complex choices in how youuse vision – rather than how you acquire it – by both severe rate limitations – as well as allowing some more complex functionality to exist without a gold investment.

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Vision is integral to winning Why are so many players not warding

Xypherous Final PortraitIt’s likely that warding just isn’t viewed as an activity that makes a ton of sense from an abstract perspective. Put down sticks that grant vision? What?

Eventually, we’ll want to revisit the concept of static wards to begin with and see if there’s a better analogy that still plays a part in the vision game. This is super speculative – but imagine if, instead of a pink ward – you placed a tiny speed shrine that also provided vision.

I suspect that eventually, we’ll have to shift the analogy to like ‘mini-buildings’ or ‘mini-structures’ rather than ‘sticks that see’ in the long long run.

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Why not have tutorials that teach players the importance of vision

Xypherous Final PortraitTutorials and teaching players are definitely worth pursuing – However, with warding and such, it feels very much like a state of like ‘Well, we could teach them how to do Assembly… but.. maybe we should look at what we want them to do and confirm that’s actually a deep and engaging activity first.’

The other portion of this is that I believe Tutorials that teach you how to ward are going to have a major gap in that you cannot learn from your current enemy if the enemy has found some new clever way to use them. Hence – any tutorials are going to have a continual lag time – so whatever you’re teaching should also have some kind of learnable component from observing your enemy and allies in game.

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What led to the pink ward trinket option being removed

Xypherous Final PortraitA lot of the trinket options were removed to streamline the system down. There are some interesting expansion opportunities for the trinket space that I want to look into – and so we removed it to condense the space down to the bare minimum to replicate what most of the players on live regularly use.

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DEV BLOG Starting Items in the 2016 Season

Pwyff Final PortraitPosting for Xypherous!

Our original intent with starting items before this season was to give players the ability to reflexively counter their opponents with generalist options running alongside more pronounced counter-items for specific circumstances (Flask, Doran’s Shield).

However, after a couple of seasons of attempting to balance this world, we’ve grown unhappy with how confining this approach is and the general problems that resulted from this approach. We’re decided to take a different tactic and adopt a pattern closer to the support line of items: Starter items that clearly express some kind of goal or intent in lane alongside a more generalist item for each of the positions in the game.

Magic – Doran’s Ring vs. The Dark Seal

Doran’s Ring is a powerful farming generalist item while The Dark Seal signifies an intent to roam and pick up champion kills along the the way.

While this doesn’t support the full spectrum of mages in mid, it does represent two of the largest factions – push mages vs. assassin roamers.

Attack – Cull vs. Doran’s Blade

Cull is an early skirmish option designed to be focused primarily around farming and light aggression.

Doran’s Blade on the other hand, is a generalist option that scales much better into mid-game and is better in skirmish situations.

Jungle – Hunter’s Talisman vs. Hunter’s Machete

Machete has long favored a certain class of attack speed centric characters and this represents a quandary of how to actually support mage or tank style junglers from the get-go.

Machete now doubles down on its auto-attack centric nature while Talisman focuses on area burn and mana regeneration. Talisman is primarily designed for spell focused junglers – especially those that have repeated area of effect attacks on moderate cooldowns (like Brand or Zyra).

Both of these initial items are required to upgrade into the Tier 2 Jungle item, so your choice of initial item will eventually become moot. However, this flexibility of starting options combined with the patience system should open up stronger opening jungle patterns to a wider variety of junglers.

Lane Sustain – Health Potion vs. Refillable Potion

One of the major issues with Crystalline Flask right now is that we are unable to push its power to the point where it feels non-abusive in lane. This is due to the fact that it stacks with potions and thus any power add-on in Crystalline Flask gets doubled down on because you stack potions with it.

Hence, the new inventory rule: you can only ever have one type of potion in your inventory at any time.

Refillable Potions are 3 times more expensive than a potion but benefit from the fact that they will recharge once you return to the fountain. Normal Healing Potions represent more healing up-front for less gold but is obviously temporary in nature.

Refillable Upgrades – Jungle vs. Lane

This, by itself, would probably still be on the weak side. However, Refillable Potions can upgrade into two versions: Hunter’s Potion and Corrupting Potion.

Hunter’s Potion is a roam-centric potion that can regain charges out in the field while you are killing large jungle monsters. It’s designed primarily to support a Jungle playstyle that focuses on maximal uptime or bolstering characters with low innate sustain.

Corrupting Potion is similar to Crystalline Flask on live – with the added benefit of combat power. During its effect, damaging enemy champions will burn them for magic damage over time. Corrupting Potion represents an intent to harass your lane opponent until they give up.

Mana Potions – Removed

Mana Potions have been removed from the game. We’ve generally found that the decision to opt into Mana Potions was one that was either forced upon some champions (aka “I need this mana to function”) or one that was generally only available to a handful of circumstances.

The best use cases of Mana Potions were typically to circumvent Mana restrictions for boom/bust play patterns (ie: save up to X amount of mana before dumping it all in a large burst of damage, repeat) vs. attrition-based approaches that are more in favor of straight mana regeneration. A champion being able to access their big “all-in” combo more frequently also makes it challenging for us to balance appropriately, and we’ve seen some more frustrating champions have their power reduced as a result.

With the removal of mana potions, we can also retune some champion mana values back to a middle ground. We’ve looked at the data for champions that frequently bought 2 or more mana potions in the game and we’ve either increased their maximum mana or the mana regeneration values based on their class.

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For the start of the season, we’ve focused on granting at least two options to a particular need in the starting item space to support a wider variety of playstyles and intents from the start of the game.

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Why are you both buffing earlygame harass and nerfing Dorans Shield

Xypherous Final PortraitBased on usage – the maximum sustain starts were most frequently used by characters that thrived on early harass. Pantheon, Kassadin and the like were the most effective users of maximal sustain starts – and they frequently used that high sustain to capitalize on early bullying pressure.

While I agree with you that there’s a dearth of solo lane tank starts – most of the solo tank starting item patterns that seem to make senseat first glance – we’ve found that when those options are strong – they tend to be better on pretty much anyone but solo tanks – like bot lane support/adc pairs.

You’ve gone and added a ton of new items for every other class

If we’re not talking about starting items – this item pass has mostly focused on AD Marksmen and some light AD work – rather than ‘every other class.’

The other facet of this is that in the Juggernaut update – there have been a ton of items – while their primary users aren’t tanks – have added to the tank pool of items (DMP and Sterak’s.)

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Why are you buffing Dorans Blade

Xypherous Final PortraitFree lifesteal in the ferocity tree makes the relative advantage of picking up a Doran’s Blade weaker in the early item selection phase – as it means it now has to compete with some of the older component based starts (Long Sword + 3) at a much large disadvantage.

Long Sword + 3 is especially problematic if it becomes the default option again – as that’s more early in-lane sustain, hence why we try to keep DBlade competitive with it.

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Its power creep to buff one item start for ADCs so it competes with another

Xypherous Final PortraitIn order to run this argument – you need to run through this by several means:

  1. The mastery AD tree gives you as much power in terms of raw offense as before / The beneficiaries of Doran’s Blade have more total raw power than before in pre-game.
  2. Similar argument to #1 – but from a relative perspective – AKA – everyone lost more than they gained.
  3. That this power advantage hasn’t been taken into account elsewhere – like their most powerful first item buy.
  4. That other starting item paths haven’t been buffed as well or heavily adjusted.

While I’m not convinced any of these are true or false as there’s a lot of mechanics going on – I know that a lot of the AD efficiency, early potential spike in AD power, the conversion from total pen to bonus pen in the AD system and the decoupling of flat pen from % pen in the mastery system make the AD curve less steep than it previously was.

While I can’t go out to say that ‘No, power creep isn’t happening’ – What I can say is that I can see other factors that work in the opposite direction of power creep – so adjustment based off initial reads is likely the best solution.

You can strongly make the claim ‘I think a Solo tanks early game is weaker than it was’ – which is probably true. I’m less certain about the statement that ‘Solo tanks are weaker’ as a whole – as most of the efficiency passes, especially in terms of MR – are more favorable to them.

All that said, I totally get why you feel the way that you do. It’s not your job to read every change and put them all together and evaluate whether or not it comes out in one way or another.

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If we arent meant to bring the new pots to lategame why do they cost so much

Xypherous Final PortraitYou can claim this about most non-upgradeable starting items.

However, the catch-22 part comes in only if you assume that games cannot be won before slots start to become a problem or that the item’s power curve doesn’t translate well into the mid-game at all.

Sellback values mitigate some of the initial cost for the mid and late game – and the trade-off between a more powerful early start vs. a guaranteed late game is always whether or not you got enough interim value out of the item to make up the deficit in this regard in terms of either uptime or personal performance.

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Why do the Dark Seal and Mejai lose a flat amount of stacks per death

Xypherous Final PortraitThe most common points of feedback when losing a % of stacks is that it’s never worth it to trade kills and die with the item – since the better you did – the more stacks you lose. Experimenting with a flat amount of stacks so that players can evaluate their plays much better. Did you get 2+ kills? Then it was worth it, even if you died.

The other part of this is that a % loss on death lead to some awkward double-kill or post-death / post-assist death scenarios. While flat suffers from similar problems at the low end – it won’t be as ubiquitous.

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I feel like Mejai got even more snowbally than before

Xypherous Final PortraitThe item is likely more snowbally than before. The idea behind the Dark Seal is that you have a point in the game where you:

  1. Broadcast that you want to do a snowball route (since.. the Dark Seal doesn’t really build into anything else.)
  2. Have a chance to back out if things don’t go your way.

So there’s much less initial risk to the item – and thus the item can be snowbally but will be less feast or famine because a good player can cut his losses early, so to speak.

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Are there plans to make a third flask that simply heals faster than the others

Xypherous Final PortraitNot at the moment.

Maximum sustain in lane is something that players would always like more of (as the best way to beat your opponent is to simply have more health at any given time – go go 13 potion starts).

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Was it intentional to make the biscuits effect NOT apply to flasks

Xypherous Final PortraitFor now, yes. Although, I could certainly see us deciding the other way in the future easily based on item usage. Eternal Biscuit of Replenishment?

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What are the expected starting items for someone who needs sustain

Xypherous Final PortraitIf you need a huge chunk of sustain – the expected stat is that you get Corrupting Potion. The other facet of this is that there are a lot more individual sustain options in other pre-game systems (Lifesteal naturally in ferocity tree, for example) – so there should be enough customization bits out of game to bolster this as well.

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Do you think some Champions will become weak due to the Mana pot removal

Xypherous Final PortraitCurrently the stance is that we’d prefer if Mana purchases reflected more permanent decision making. This is why Frostfang’s line of MP/5 has been greatly increased for example.

Mana potions to support off uses is a niche benefit but the niche benefit doesn’t really outweigh tremendous initial costs in tuning. 😡

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It feels like Cull and The Dark Seal are trap items that make laning too weak

Xypherous Final PortraitAgree that these two items have a higher risk potential than the standard starting items. Dark Seal and Cull don’t necessarily have to be purchased as your first buy – if you want to take a safer route and see how the lane goals.

Doran’s Ring into Dark Seal instead of a second Doran’s Ring after you’ve gauaged the lane can be an effective way at mitigating that risk. Similarly with Doran’s Blade into first back Cull.

The other idea that we’re stressing here is that, in the absence of greedy items – there’s no real way to punish a safe lane that’s doubled down on being as not dead as possible. Cull / Dark Seal both support the notion that – if you try that approach – then I can respond by getting more out of the laning phase than you will via farm or more powerful rewards for roam.

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How do you think the jungle changes will affect AD assassins

Xypherous Final PortraitWe turn over the jungle pool every year pretty consistently – so the ability for an individual jungler to have the same clear speed as before isn’t as important. AD Casters will specifically generally have a harder time of it in this year than previous years.

It’s definitely something we’ll have to keep tuning as we get better data on how players are adapting.

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  • Damage-per-level increased from 2.5 to 3.3
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Will Poppys ultimate remain the same after the rework

Scruffy Final PortraitHer old ultimate is not staying sorry to say. There is something to be said for how unique it is but the amount of frustration/confusion/abusive edge cases that it adds to the game outweighs the amount of fun/interesting gameplay that it brings.

Hopefully the new ult we have in the works will be much more exciting and interesting while not bringing with it so many negative costs. Wait and see just a short while longer and let us know what you think of it when it’s done.

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Thematically will Poppy still be a tenacious yordle ball of hate

Meddler Final PortraitWe’re aiming to preserve her personality – determined, heroic, sincere etc.

Must admit ‘ball of hate’ isn’t the vibe I get off Poppy at present, ‘ball of stubborness’, ‘ball of determination’, ‘ball of smash’ and so on being the sort of stuff I associate with Poppy. Curious as to other people’s thoughts though as to which few words you’d use to sum up Poppy’s personality overall?

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What parts of Poppys old kit will be preserved in her update

Scruffy Final PortraitWe’re keeping a few other things from her current kit (E being a big one, also her “low health tankiness”).

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Poppys current passive makes her immune to burst Will that change

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ll be replacing Poppy’s passive. We are thinking about keeping a ittle bit of ‘tough when low on health’ on the kit though, just in a much more apparent and balanceable way.

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Whatre your thoughts on Talons passive

Scruffy Final PortraitNot Repertoir but I agree that Talon’s passive is pretty lackluster in both satisfaction and just how interesting it is compared to some of the stuff we can do now.

No plans for just a passive rework on him though as he is probably a champ that we would want to take on all at once. Build some more unique identity into the character, fix some of his one dimensional play, and create more clear opportunities for him outskilling his opponent and vice versa.

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What happened to Hephestopheless ideas to rework Talons passive

Meddler Final PortraitGiving Talon a reason to auto attack a bit more’s a solid goal for a passive on him. Very with you that it’s not accomplishing that at present though, it’s not core enough to his play pattern in terms of its contribution, his own ability to set it up or his capability to auto attack for an extended period.


As a side note Hephestopheles does indeed still work at Riot. Original developer intent’s something we like to refer to since it can offer useful insights into how to improve a champion and we’ll certainly tap Hephestopheles for his thoughts when doing work on Talon at some point. Working on a champion puts you in a great position to help maintain and develop them after they go out, it doesn’t mean you continue to control everything about them based off your personal preferences though. Doing what’s right for the character/game is the most important thing and means that if we grab Hephestopheles to chat about changing Talon his response is almost certainly going to be something along the lines of ‘awesome, how can we make him better?’.

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Do youve any further plans to update Miss Fortune

Repertoir New PortraitYes. Statikk’s on it, but we don’t have anything ready to talk about just yet.

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So you guys are looking to improve her give her some buffs

Repertoir New PortraitReally want to focus on hitting her identity as some kind of run-and-gun aoe marksman as far as I know, but that’s about all I know for now.

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Neither you nor Statikk play Miss Fortune so why are you reworking her

Repertoir New PortraitThat’s a pretty unfair and short-sighted assessment.

I’m not an MF main, and neither is Statikk. You’re right about that, but that’s really of much less value than you’re making it out to be. People seem to think that Ashe and Sion were pretty successful updates in the recent past, and I can assure you that I was not an Ashe main and Scruffy was not a Sion main going into those projects.

Also, as designers, we participate in two full internal games every day amongst each other to test changes out and see where we want to take things. Additionally, we have an excellent playtest team full of Diamond, Masters, and Challenger players that play League pretty much nonstop and give us their opinions. Riot Umpunct, in particular, mained MF on his way to Masters this season.

For what it’s worth, Ezreal is literally the lead designer on my team.

I understand you may have concerns over your champion not getting its fair treatment, but please don’t turn things into a series of accusations against us for trying to share and get the champions into a good spot. Spewing insults at me and other Rioters does literally no good, and all it does is discourage us from trying to keep you guys in the loop and take your feedback into account.

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Miss Fortunes ult should deal way more damage than it currently does

Repertoir New PortraitWhen we first started talking about MF and what we might want to do for her, we had all these ideas, and Scruffy stepped in and just said “Guys, seriously, just double her ult’s damage and go from there.”

Now, Statikk didn’t do exactly that, but it at least gives an idea of where our heads are at with her.

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What do you think will happen to Nasus after Patch 5 16

Scruffy Final PortraitI agree that he’s in a pretty balanced spot right now. After 5.16, it’s not super clear how that will change (new items and a bunch of reworks could shake things up a lot). My guess is it’ll be about even with frozen heart nerf (hurts nasus) and Steraks Gage (+ base AD good for nasus/sheen users).

That said, the live balance team, the systems team, and the champ update team are all watching the results very closely so we can follow up where it’s needed.

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Do you think 5 16 s Armor item nerfs can hit Fighters harder than intended

Scruffy Final PortraitAbsolutely, I think that there is no crusade against tanks/fighters that i’ve heard of and the general fear is that they will end up too strong after 5.16. If in the end things go the other way and defensive characters get pushed down into a bad space, we will adjust things asap.

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Nasus has no incentive to build Health and his staple items are getting nerfed

Scruffy Final PortraitYea, the main issue as you say for nasus is that health items really don’t fit as well into his ideal builds. If he needs some tweaks after 5.16 giving him better ways to scale off health may be a way to keep him relevant in the new HP heavy item world.

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How far off are the Shyvana and Olaf reworks

Repertoir New PortraitEnd of year maybe? We know that we want to work on them, but we don’t yet know exactlywhat the output should be per champion yet.

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Are there any plans for Galio Aatrox and Tryndamere

Repertoir New PortraitAatrox is probably closest to a Juggernaut here, but even then, his mobility profile (free target dash, specifically) is pretty contradictory to our expectation for these guys, so working on him would probably come at costs to that or something else that players see as important to his identity. That said, Gypsylord was recently looking into giving Aatrox some love unrelated to ‘juggernaut’ work, so he may be ready to shed some light on that in the coming months.

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Are there any more Juggernauts in the works that arent Shyvana or Olaf

Repertoir New PortraitNo.

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Will you continue to work on Morde if hes not viable after Patch 5 16

Meddler Final PortraitWe’ve put time aside for follow up work on all four juggernauts, and the new items, during both 5.17 and 5.18’s development in case it’s needed. Morde’s definitely the highest risk project of the four, both in terms of scope of changes and change in playstyle, so it seems a reasonable assumption he might need more follow up attention than average.


We’ll make sure to give you folks some visibility into how we think each of those reworks is going post launch and what we are or aren’t planning to change in response to that. One thing we do want to watch out for though is reacting too quickly to day one performance. With any rework a lot of people that aren’t familiar with a champ, or haven’t played them for a long time, give them a try to see what they’re like now. That temporarily pulls a champ’s performance down a lot briefly, as the need to learn new mechanics even for more experienced players. Day 1 win rates noticeably below a champ’s previous win rate are basically expected as a result, though there’s certainly a limit to how much lower they should be (Fiora for example’s just too weak at present, in addition to going through that learning curve/new player period).

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Do youve any plans to update Quinn

Repertoir New PortraitI am actually actively doing some work on Quinn. One of the things I want to address is that Harrier just seems like it screws me over when playing her sometimes. We’re supposed to be a dynamic duo. Please mark more useful targets, Valor. Please stop taking your time to mark things, Valor. And Quinn, maybe people would take your attacks seriously if they felt like they were aiming to injure someone.

That’s my general attitude on Quinn, anyway.

We’re not at the point yet where I can discuss full details, but they’re high up on my personal radar.

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Is Quinns toplane kit preventing her from being played as an ADC

Repertoir New PortraitQuinn is a bit of an oddball, in that identifying what lane she belongs in isn’t an easy task. However, being an adc and being played in a solo lane are not necessarily mutually exclusive, as we have seen from some other guys like Ezreal, Varus, and occasionally Corki being played in solo lanes.

If the meta were ever to shift away from marksman in a duo lane, Quinn’s value would probably be a lot higher, but that hasn’t been the case for quite a long time, so it’s hard to say with certainty if that’s ever going to come back.

It would probably be the safest thing for us to figure out what is unique and/or cool about Quinn and see how we can amplify that and make it something useful that teams care about having. If we could make “ranged carry that becomes melee carry” provide a different output that you wouldn’t just get from another melee carry, then that would probably serve the character well. If we couldn’t, we’d probably have to look to other facets of Quinn to emphasize as her cool and uniquely powerful thing(s).

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Hopefully Tarics update will include the Charm mechanic you talked about before

IronStylus Final PortraitTrying to. It’s an interesting balance, and one not without its inherent dangers. A lot of people have attachment to Taric for various reasons. Since he’s such an old asset, there’s more space for individuals to project their fantasy onto him.

Expectation is different in everyone’s eyes, even internally. I and other artists have been working on him for a while also. We’ve gone through LOTS of iterations and are still probably a little ways out from settling on something solid. We have some cool ideas for just what is “gem magic”, how it manifests, and what makes Taric Taric. It’s been a journey, that’s for sure.

Right now we’re hoping to have his concept locked later this month, or sometime next month. Not sure at all about release, since we’ve got some other large projects in the pipeline now we might not hit the end of the year for him, but here’s hoping!

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Are you content with leaving Veigar in his current state

Scruffy Final PortraitVeigar wasn’t a champion update (the team I work on) but I know that the live gameplay designers did not intend to nerf him from the onset. It may be time for some tweaks for him if he’s not viable so I’ll run it by them and see if there is any room for a buff.

If he’s already strong there may be other ways to improve his QoL without buffing him. Will investigate, no promises.

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Upcoming change to patch day for OCE

Agent Mindstar:  TL:DR Starting with patch 5.16, Oceania will be the first region in the world to receive future patches. Our patch day will now be Wednesday mornings instead of Thursday mornings.

Hey everyone,

I want to share an upcoming change to Oceania’s patch timing. Starting with the next patch, Oceania will be moving up from Thursdays to Wednesdays. We’re also taking the opportunity to shift downtime a bit to better match when most of you are offline. (Neat side-note: this means Oceania will be the first region in the world to receive future patches)

We’ll provide more timing updates as we get closer to enacting this change.

If you have any questions about this let us know in the comments below!

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Scruffy Final PortraitHey everyone!

This is a totally unprompted thread where I thought I could answer whatever questions about new champion or champion update designs. I’ll come back to the thread and post answers to a bunch of questions up into this OP.

Because this is the first time I’m trying this, let’s do a broad and obvious topic – Champ Design (including reworks). The type of question that would be fitting here is like “how do you determine which skills to keep when you rework a character?” or “what makes a good character passive in your opinion?”

Stay on topic (sorry I don’t work on URF so DONT ASK LOL) and I’ll try to answer as many questions as I can.

Fire away!

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I’ll answer a few now and come back later for more (and probably throughout the weekend)

  • If a champion is relatively fine in a purely BALANCE perspective, do they ever have an opportunity to get reworked to be more like what they’re supposed to be? Or be made so that they aren’t such a wasted concept?
  • Yes! We most definitely do and will continue to use thematic delivery, fun, and satisfaction as a reason to revisit a character. We always set out the goals of a project when we start, so we know if it is more mechanics focused (something like soraka) or thematic/satisfaction focus (something like gangplank) or a lot of both (sion).
  • How do you prioritize updates?

Currently we prioritize updates by which are the most “in need” of the improvements (gameplay or visual). Each group (art, design, sound) will use their own analysis and player feedback to rank which champs are really needing the update. This led us to champs like soraka, sion, nidalee, poppy, karthus, etc. While going through this list we have some spare people to work on smaller less urgent projects like viktor, gragas, tristana to keep things coming as often as we can.

  • How much more mobility can we expect to see added to League of Legends in the coming season?

This is a timely question, with so many more mobile champs in recent releases than in the early days of LoL. We actually met with a large group of new champ and champup designers to talk about how much mobility we are giving to characters and at what cost. The general consensus is that we are probably going to both be a bit more selective with where we give mobility and give the characters appropriate costs to having mobility. For example, we think that by default a marksman doesn’t have burst mobility, so the question that we are asking ourselves is “what cost is a character like lucian, tristana, or corki paying for the powerful mobility tools that they have?”

  • Can you describe the factors in/process between deciding whether a skill is a skillshot or targeted ability?

You could have a great ability on both sides of this coin (skillshot or targeted). The real question that we are asking is what parts of a character’s overall kit are reliable and which are unreliable. Having a healthy mix of both is typically a recipe for success because it gives the character some baseline tools that they can count on mixed in with some important moments where hitting a skillshot, blocking a spell with a spellshield, or dodging a big burst of damage with your Zed ult can determine the outcome of a fight.

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A few more answers

  • What is Riot’s current opinions on hybrid champions, either current or possibly new?

Hybrid champions aren’t problematic as a concept, we just try to factor in how being a hybrid character affects the game. A hybrid champ has both a harder time itemizing for penetration and makes it harder for their opponents to itemize defenses against them.

  • Ever considered an energy-based Support?

We haven’t put any serious work into an energy based on manaless support recently, but it isn’t an impossible design space. The key factor here is that we would want to preserve the important “attrition” element of bottom lane, so this character should probably not have strong health sustain or healing in combination with no mana.

  • How does Riot determine what to keep and what to revise on champion kits in need of a rework for “thematic” reasons?

The first step of a rework is often more about finding the right overall direction for a character. Take Sion for example, we first determined that this guy is best delivered as a tanky “undead juggernaut” that moves slowly but is a major disruptive force in the middle of a fight. It is a very high priority for us to find the right core concept for a character that matches the coolest and most important elements of the character before the rework. With the high level direction figured out, we can see what abilities on the old kit would still work with the new direction for the character.

  • Does how often a champion get played factor in to the decision to rework them? Or are you fine with niche picks, like Urgot?

We do consider a champ’s play rate when we are selecting reworks but we don’t bias one way or the other. A good mix of popular and unpopular champions is what we are aiming for currently so that we can sometimes update popular champs to create positive impact to a wide group of players and sometimes update niche champs to keep them relevant or give them new life.

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  • How often do reworks get canned, and how far do they usually make it before they get canned?

Rework projects rarely get canned. Though in the past, maybe 1 in 5 that goes into early exploration is put on hold and picked up later. A project like Warwick that Zenon was working on but had to be put on hold for him to work on other projects will be picked up where he left off and finished. Even if entire kits are scrapped and restarted, the work is not a waste because we likely learned a lot about what didn’t work for that iteration and that leads us to things that usually work much better.

  • When it comes to new champion design and such, is the factor of said champion completely overshadowing another, older champ taken into account?

We very heavily consider this when working on new champions. We want a new champ to bring something new to the game rather than replace and overshadow something that champs already do. Sometimes if a champion is released in a too powerful state, it can give them strengths that they aren’t designed to have.

For example, Braum is intended to be a unique defensive support in how he can block projectiles for his team while staying mobile. When he released he was doing that just fine, but he was also a very strong aggressive pick support with Q slows, damage and follow up stuns. When we saw that he was overshadowing a lot of other supports in this way, Wreckz and the live balance team responded by lowering his aggressive play potential to focus his power in the ways that he is meant to have it.

  • How would you go about reworking Teemo?

Hehe, I can’t resist answering this one because TEEMO. So first off don’t take any of this as gospel because I’m just spitballing here.

First off is to try and understand the core of what Teemo is about and what his current problems are. The really unique and fun thing about teemo (IMO) is the way he can control an area of the map like top lane or baron pit with his mine field of shrooms. He also has a clear poke pattern in lane and high sustained damage in the late game. Some of the most obvious problems that he has are that there is no meaningful counterplay to his mushrooms and his poke pattern is also not interactive and just involves trading targeted damage against an often melee opponent.

So when it comes to solutions I would try a variety of mushroom version with possible counterplay and to compensate the teemo player, add or emphasize the awesome rewards he gets for catching his opponents in his traps. A crazy example would be that if he was stealthed (by standing still) and someone triggered a mushroom trap, he could keep his stealth and run quickly towards the triggered trap for an ambush. The other solutions around his poke lane would also need to be creative but would definitely move in the direction of his opponent having opportunities to avoid or counter his poke, and we could give teemo some new tools to compensate for the loss of reliability.

EDIT 4

  • Where does the buck stop when it comes to big decisions on a champion rework?

There is no single individual that has the 100% say over any particular champion update, but many people get to have strong input. From a game design perspective the primary “owner” as we like to call it is the main designer that is spending most of their time working on the project. They receive a lot of input from the other designers on the Champion Update and Champion team and get really detailed and thorough feedback from the Lead Designers on their team and other teams (Scruffy, Meddler, Morello, Ezreal, etc). In the end, by the time any character goes out, many different people have reviewed the kit and, if something is good enough to ship, often most people on the team are very happy with it.

  • You gonna give talon some form of cc (a real cc, not a shitty quarter second slow) on his cut-throat (e) or maybe a decent form of utility so he can keep up with all the incredibly good kits other assassins have?

I think in the future we will shy away from hard CC on Talon because as we have seen in the past, the combination of hard CC and his burst damage led to very frustrating and non interactive situations where he can 100-0 an enemy while they are unable to react.

On the topic of how we would want to improve talon (no immediate plans yet just talking about direction), his current pattern of burst an enemy or be useless is pretty binary and honestly a bit boring. I would want to buff up some of his utility tools like his stealth or even give him new utility tools that are not hard CC (like dodge, spell shield or something like that) to allow him to not feel useless when he can’t immediately burst kill his enemies.

  • What are some themes you want to check out that haven’t been touched on yet?

These are just my personal – Mind Controller, Earth Mage, Group character (multiple yordles or something cool), Mountain Climber, Blacksmith, A bunch of animal type creature characters, Flying characters that interact differently with the map, and these are just off the top of my head.

EDIT 5:

  • Using Rek’Sai as an example, what makes you decide to use a non-mana resource on a champion? Is it a thematic decision, gameplay, or a mix of both? How do you feel about the state of mana in LoL?

I’ll answer your last question first, I feel like mana is still a very important element of LoL, especially for some types of characters. Mana as a resource creates a second strategic layer of attrition for a lot of characters that adds a “long game” strategy to champ vs champ combat. Mana allows more outcomes to fights or trades than just “I killed you” or “I took more health away.”

When it comes to when we give mana to champs (or not in Reksai’s case) it is more often a mechanical decision than a thematic one. With Reksai we were exploring some different resourse mechanics with the health return passive, where health is the resource she has to manage more than mana. By comparison a mana based jungler like Warwick or Elise should stay healthier than Reksai when they are usuing mana on their sustain tools but they will eventually run OOM and have to go back to the fountain.

  • I’m seeing a lot of questions about Yorick and Mordekaiser so lets talk about them

First thing, we’re not actively working on either of those two champs but in terms of what is next for us when we finish current projects, they are very very high up on the priority list.

So Yorick we actually have a decent starting point with Xelnath’s earlier work and it is pretty clear what this guy is about – Ghoul Minions and Melee fighting.

Morde is a bit trickier because he is really straddling the line between what is a mage and what is a fighter. I bet when we start working on him and are trying to discover his core, we will find that both elements are very important to why Morde is Morde. The tough question will be answering what unique stuff a fighter mage can bring to the game (maybe play up his “ghost enemy” stuff).

EDIT 6:

  • What is Riot’s opinion on champions with more then one way to be built?

Personally I love it when champions have multiple build paths. The things that we have to watch out for are when one of the builds creates toxic or low interest gameplay. As an example if AD Varus played like he does now but the off build AP Varus (I know this isn’t really a thing) could one shot enemies with his Q and do not much else we probably would want to change the way AP varus worked so that it had a more healthy play pattern.

  • What is the maximum amount of crowd control you think you could and would load onto a kit without going overboard? How long would the target be disabled in some way?

The way that we think about this is more about the ratio of damage a character can deal vs the amount of CC they have. A character can have crazy amounts of CC (see nautilus) if they do low sustained damage, but another character could be problematic with even 1 second of CC if they deal high burst damage. The goal here is that the enemy receiving the CC will always have some window of time where they are not CCed and not dead so that they can react.

Have you ever considered having non-ultimate global abilities that deal no damage, but instead support champions in other lanes? Something on the line of care packages.

Yes, we have considered a bunch of stuff like this. Nothing has made it into a champion but I think there is room for some pretty cool mechanics in this vein. For example, a “scouting” focused character could do all kinds of global vision plays or even give allies an oracle buff from across the map. Another example is a “global push pressure” champ that could make minion waves on the opposite side of the map much stronger to create global push pressure for their team.

I think this is all of the questions for this week. I’ll try to rope in some other designers next week and maybe we can pick another topic. Was this useful/fun for you all?

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Mystery Skins for Good Behavior are still coming

DARTAGNAN Final PortraitHey everyone,

Many of you have seen your friends receive their Mystery Skins with you left wondering where your Mystery Skin is, or whether you even qualified for one. Never fear!

Mystery Skins are still being sent out!

We are sending them out in waves every single day, and it may take the next couple of weeks (until the end of January) before they are all distributed. We’ll update this thread once the last wave has been sent!

As a reminder, here are the qualifications:

  • All Riot Regions qualify – NA, EUW, EUNE, LAS, LAN, BR, OCE, RU, TR, and Korea
  • You need to be level 5 (reached level 5 in 2014)
  • You need to have played and completed at least one game of any mode (including Custom Games) in 2014.
  • You did not receive a 14-day suspension
  • You did not receive a ranked restriction (a single game ranked restriction will disqualify you)
  • You did not receive a chat restriction (a single game of chat restriction will disqualify you)
  • If you received a Leaver Buster Penalty, you still qualify for the Mystery Skin
  • If your account was compromised and suspended by Riot until it was recovered, we will double-check our list to make sure you receive one
  • If you have under the 10 skin minimum for Mystery Skins, we will check the list again and make sure anyone who did not receive one, but met all other qualifications, gets one!
  • If you recently transferred to another Riot Region, you will still get a Mystery Skin, as long as you meet the previous qualifications

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I think Irelia as a whole needs a VU

IronStylus Final Portrait^ this. In fact she will most likely be a comprehensive gameplay and visual update (VGU). She’s listed as a high-value target but currently there is no prioritization for her for 2015, but that could change. We’re trying to get ahead on a number of front’s so we’ll see. I have a concept for her but it’s definitely not final. She’ll need a probably semi-large scope effort because of thematic issues. What is she exactly? Ionian metal-manipulating general? That’s cool, but could she be more? We shall see!

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Why did Evelynn get a skin Safecracker before her visual update

Nurse Flan Final PortraitFor Eve, we saw an opportunity to create a skin for her before an update that wouldn’t interfere too much with any then-current plans with her. This does not mean every potential champion update is in the same state and can be treated in the same way. The team felt it would be a win to create a skin at the chance we got, so we took it instead of passing it up. It may not have coincided with what was said in the past about skin plans, but I think it’s much better to try and take things on a case-by-case basis rather than let a statement be the end all be all for the rest of eternity 🙂

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Why hasnt Zac received a skin yet

Nurse Flan Final Portrait*disclaimer – Zac skins are a hot topic and we are not able to answer any questions about -when- a skin is coming out or is in the works (or any other skins). I’m here to perhaps shed a little light and let you guys know Zac is not forgotten!*

Definitely don’t think you’re being rude! What I can tell you is that Zac’s champ and stretchy tech is very difficult to work with, and that alone increases work time on him a lot. So using a popular community skin suggestion for him, Gentleman Zac – his clothes especially around his arms would have some crazy weighting and stretching issues. And it would also be really weird to see cloth stretching and turning into globs of goo haha I’d love to hear any suggestions on workarounds you may have to mitigate this!

I know “easy” recolored skins have been suggested for Mr. Blob, but then it would seem unfair if say we released a 750RP Bubblegum Zac and have him wait a while for another skin instead of taking the time to make sure we make a super awesome blow-your-mind quality skin for him.

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 What about a swimsuit Zac skin

[ Note ] Here’s an example of how that skin could look like.

Nurse Flan Final PortraitThat’s a good example! Besides the addition of the swim trunks, it’s technically just about a fancy blue recolor though. 😡

The fanart done of pool party Zac include some cute arm floaties – which I like, but that would again cause problems with his stretchy arms! > n <

Summer is coming up for the Northern Hemisphere kinda sorta soonish (brr, that 50 degree California winter weather!). I can definitely make an extra poke about a skin like this!
^This is not a promise that this skin is going to be made! ; u ;

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Welcome to Fantasy LCS

OMHALODIL Final PortraitWelcome to Fantasy LCS, where you build your dream team of LCS pros and compete against your friends for bragging rights and season glory! Beginning this week, we’ll be opening up the 2015 Spring Split Fantasy draft window.

Fantasy LCS is getting a face-lift for 2015, thanks to the feedback you gave us in the 2014 Beta. Here’s what’s new:

  • NA and EU are now on separate roster locks that correspond to the first day of matches for each league.
  • Each league now features a message board where you can coordinate draft times and discuss strategy.
  • We added chat functionality during draft
  • Scoring has been slightly tweaked: we added a fast win bonus of 2 points for teams that win in less than 30 minutes. Stay tuned for an article that dives into the rationale behind this scoring addition.

We added a few administrative tools:

  • If you are a league creator, you can delete your league if you haven’t drafted yet.
  • You can also leave a league if you haven’t drafted yet.
  • You can now rename your team.

Your league home page, roster page, and match-ups page are now shareable publicly. Show off your dream team, those close wins, and your standings to your friends!

Never played fantasy? Don’t worry — it’s easy! Join together with up to seven friends or fellow League players, then build your dream team, one draft pick at a time. Every player from the NA and EU LCS is up for grabs, and what they do on the Rift each week matters. You’re awarded points based on their performance, so when your pros do well, you do too! Fantasy LCS also adds a new layer of fun to watching matches each week, as fantasy stats updates will be piped in at real-time.

We’ve got a bunch of resources to help get you ready for your draft. Learn how to play and about draft strategy at fantasy.lolesports.com.

Stay tuned for more details on when you can get drafting! In the meantime, feel free to discuss strategy below. Who are your top picks?

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Update El Tigre Braum price updated to 1350 RP

Galetta Final PortraitEDIT: Just wanted to update the El Tigre Braum thread about his price. He was always intended to be 1350 RP but we mistakenly listed him at 975 RP (sorry!). It’s his custom respawn animation specifically that pushes him into the 1350 price tier. Like all 1350s though, he’ll be on sale for the first week after his release so you can get him for 975 RP during that time. Sorry for the mistake and we’ll make sure it doesn’t happen again!

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Champion Skin Sale December 22

The following Champions and Skins will be 50% off until December 22nd:



Champions

 

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Blade Mistress Morgana – 375 RP


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Bloodfury Renekton – 487 RP


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Gothic Orianna – 260 RP


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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

 

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Tons of texture updates are soon heading to the PBE; here are previews for all of them:

 

 

Ququroon Final PortraitHey folks! Ququroon here!

I know I have a thread over on the PBE that’s been sitting up there in the announcements for a while (that totally has a ton of context if you’re not familiar with this!), but I wanted to cross the streams and open up the feedback channel a little bit. At least for now, because my sleep schedule is OP and because I like you guys. Except for that guy. That guy sucks.

 


Amumu

 

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Caitlyn

 

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Ezreal

 

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Fizz

 

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Gragas

 

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Kog’Maw

 

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Mordekaiser

 

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Talon

 

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Udyr

 

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Urgot

 

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Vladimir

 

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Zilean


 

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I’ll be hanging out for a bit, so lemme know whatcha think! I’d also appreciate to know who you’d prefer to see, if anyone. I’m curious. Totally. That’s the ticket.

REMEMBER BECAUSE I GET THIS A LOT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A CHAMPION’S UPDATE SCHEDULE. THIS IS A BANDAID TO A LARGER PROBLEM, BUT HOPEFULLY A BANDAID THAT YOU FOLKS LIKE.

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Why are the pictures so small

Ququroon Final PortraitI kinda kept the pictures small intentionally, because it’s more indicative of what you see in game.

The changes to Void Fizz are relatively small, just messing with his highlights a little.

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Do you plan on doing a Visual Update for Ezreal

Ququroon Final PortraitEzreal does need some updates. I don’t know how much he’d differ from where he’s at now, but I imagine that he’d at least be a better execution from the current.

He’s a pretty unique character, so we’d want to push that to the limit.

Also… I’ll fight for his dance to the death.

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Will you update the hair on characters like MF or Irelia

Ququroon Final PortraitYeah, there are some older characters with some really rough hair that need to be hit.

As for PFE, we didn’t think it was in a poor place.

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Why isn’t Sad Robot Amumu on the list

Ququroon Final PortraitSad Robot Amumu is in a good state, so we probably won’t be touching it.

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 If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

As the title suggests, I don’t think Talon should have his silence removed. In this article, I’ll answer why I think this change isn’t solving the issue with Talon and will only kill him on the competitive scene.

 

 

What I’ll be discussing (PBE change, will hit Patch 4.17 this Tuesday):

 

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Cutthroat New IconCutthroat [ E ]

  • Now slows the target by 99% for 0.25 seconds
  • No longer silences

 

 

Silence works fine, unless it’s badly implemented

 I don’t agree with this systemic removal of silence from the game. Silence is the most lenient form of CC in League – it won’t kill you on its own like a long stun or slow, but it’s there to help a Champion who can’t function without denying mobility and counter-attacking.

 Putting silence on a kit can end up either way. If the silence isn’t necessary, it’s bad design, because then it’s just badly telegraphed CC. But sometimes a Champion needs a silence on their kit to perform. One example would be Blitzcrank, whose ult allows him to chain his CC; given how buggy mobility works with Rocket Grab, your grabs would sometimes be pointless if you didn’t silence the target while charging the knock-up auto attack animation. A few other Champions, like Fiddlesticks and Malzahar, use silence to enhance the strengths of their kit rather than be a nuisance.

 Where silence fails to be an engaging mechanic is when it’s tacked on and isn’t a defining part of a Champion’s kit. Great example is LeBlanc. LeBlanc is defined by two strengths: single target burst and mobility. That mobility expands into great harass in lane and roaming potential, safety in teamfights and creating picks. The silence was overkill on her kit and just made her needlessly frustrating to play against. All she needs to return on the scene is number buffs, some of which are coming in Patch 4.17. Even without the silence, LeBlanc’s mobility and pick potential gives players a reason to pick her over other assassins.

 That likely won’t be the case with Talon, however.

 

 

Removing Talon’s silence will make him unplayable in lane

 Let’s face it: Talon’s getting nerfed because he got exposure. He’s had a silence and a plethora of bad match-ups since release and now he’ll only have the latter. Talon’s kit is problematic, but the removal of silence doesn’t fix that and makes him obsolete.

 What Riot is trying to solve is Talon deleting players with no chance for them to fight back. What they’re really doing is scrapping the main reason Talon is picked while making the issue they have with him even worse. A fed Talon will 100-0 a Champion with no counterplay either way, only now his burst will be even higher due to Cutthroat applying the 10% bonus damage from his passive to his Q. The silence plays no part in that: it’s Talon’s binary kit which consists of point-and-clicks and wide AoEs.

 If Talon is indeed becoming a problem, he needs a rework, not a nerf. His combo is too reliable and becomes a blob of numbers rather than an interactive burst players can learn to avoid, like Zed’s Shurikens or Fizz’s Chum the Waters.

 

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 Let’s say the new Talon decides to go mid. What match-up can he hope for? Ahri can now Charm him as he blinks to her, Xerath can stun and slow, Ziggs can immediately disengage with Satchel Charge, Syndra can stun and combo him with no damage in return… list goes on. Pretty much any mage can disengage from a Talon who can’t silence them for as long as his combo takes. And if he can’t do that, then he can’t do anything at all. He has huge mana issues, no poke versus any mid safe for Yasuo, very little resists and no escape prior to 6. Why would you take a crippled Talon over a Zed or a Syndra then? What purpose would he fill that they can’t? They can afford to sit back and play it safe; Talon can’t. Even Akali, who is as binary as Talon, offers lane safety on top of a reliable burst.

 It doesn’t matter how amazing the slow on Cutthroat is – it’s changing the CC Talon needs to perform against his lane match-ups.

 

 

IF Talon is a problem, how should he be fixed

I’ll prefix this by saying I don’t think Talon needs nerfs. I’m just exploring Riot’s assumptions about him.

 The meta has consistently favored champions who have one purpose less and less. A long time ago you could argue that assassins had a weak early game to compensate for their strong late game. That’s no longer the case. If you’re picking an assassin, he needs to have poke, huge utility or safety… or all of those. Talon fills a niche and that’s a dedicated all-in anti-mage assassin. He can’t do anything else with his current kit. He needs interactivity somewhere on his burst to become a viable pick without the silence.

 In my opinion, his W and R work perfectly. Q is questionable, but it’s a simple spell and lets Talon build for more auto-attack damage, which diversifies assassin builds. The “rework” should be focused on his E: that’s the spell that allows his can-of-worms kit to function. If Talon needs to have his silence removed, his E should be a skillshot that can help him lane.

 

 

Is Talon even an issue I don’t think so and here’s why

 When we talk about assassins, we tend to grossly exaggerate their balance. We bring a handful of examples where X assassin got really fed and killed someone before they could Flash. What about the other times, when an assassin was denied in lane and was literally a dead weight for the team? That’s why assassins are so much more dynamic than, say, long-range mages or bruisers: it’s because they bring a risk-reward level to the game. Assassins are supposed to benefit more than any other role from snowballing and should, respectively, suffer more than any other role for falling behind. If you take away the reward stage of playing a risky assassin, then it becomes a pointless team role.

 The Talon games at this year’s OGN Regionals, when SKT T1 K squared off against Samsung White, are a perfect example of how wildly Talon’s success in a match can swing. Faker picks him and gets soloed in lane repeatedly by PawN’s Jayce, leaving the best player in the world without any team impact. Then PawN picks him against Faker’s Kassadin, feeds off the great match-up and proceeds to steamroll SKT. You have, in a single Best-of-5, an example of Talon’s extreme highs and lows.

 When Riot refer to Talon’s silence as “lacking counterplay”, they point to an imaginary scenario where Talon is getting uncontested picks left-and-right. But how did Talon get to that point? He risked going against a bad match-up or was a counter-pick, therefore he deserved the outcome of that match. You can’t solve one extreme by exacerbating another, meaning you can’t fix Talon’s certain burst by killing his laning.

 

Faker 1v1d

Nothing to see here, just Faker on Talon being 1v1d.

 

  We’re seeing the return of assassins, safe assassins, like Ahri, Syndra and Zed. They have many more tools than Talon, both in lane and teamfights. They’re still riskier picks compared to teamfight mages, but they’re nowhere near as limited in their options as Talon. They circumvent a lot of the issues that define Talon, like his lack of mobility and mana problems.

  Talon either needs to be defined by his point-and-click reliable burst or, preferably, by a more flexible kit. With Cutthroat slowing targets, he will always remain in the shadow of Zed.

 

 

Conclusion Talon shouldn’t be killed off

 With just the silence removal and nothing to compensate for it, Talon will effectively become obsolete. He’ll never exit the lane with enough gold to assassinate players who can now fight back. Since he’s going all-in every time, he’ll need to be building like a bruiser, only he has no bruiser stats and his base damage is horrible. Naturally, he’ll be forgotten, because he brings nothing to the table that teams would want.

 The easiest archetype in LoL to nerf is the assassin. Assassins are always in the spotlight in Solo Queue where communication is lacking. They’re designed to kill targets fast, which creates a very vocal response when they’re doing it well. But they also make the game dynamic and when they’re gone you see hypercarries dominate in dragged out matches that no one can end on his own. Late-game mages can already stall most games and removing one of their counters from the meta is trading one problem for another. Don’t kill off Talon, Riot.

 

 

PBE Roundup Patch 4 17 Banner

 

Here’s a round-up of the PBE updates for this patch cycle. Patch 4.17 (most likely) lands this Tuesday, September 23rd.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.

 

Content for Patch 4.17:

 

 

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Viktor Model Viktor All EmotesAll stages of Hexacore

 

Glorious Evolution New IconGlorious Evolution [ Passive ]

Viktor starts with a Prototype Hex Core that he can upgrade 3 times for 1000 gold each. Each upgrade grants +20 AP, +150 Mana and +1 AP per level, cumulating in +75AP, +6 AP per level, +500 Mana for the Perfect Hex Core.

Each upgrade will allow Viktor to augment one of his basic abilities and when Viktor has upgraded all 3, the Chaos Storm will be augmented also.

 

Icons of Hexacore’s evolution, from levels 1 to 4:

 

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Hexcore 1

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Cooldown: 10/8.5/7/5.5/4 seconds || Mana Cost: 45/50/55/60/65 || Range: 700 

Viktor blasts an enemy unit for 40/60/80/100/120 (+0.2AP) magic damage, granting him a 30/50/70/90/110 (+0.2AP) damage shield for 2.5 seconds. Viktor’s next basic attack deals 15-250 (scales with Viktor’s level) (+0.5 AP) bonus magic damage. 

 

Viktor W

 

Gravity Field New Icon Gravity Field [ W ]

 Cooldown: 17/16/15/14/13 seconds || Mana Cost: 65 || Range: 700

Viktor deploys a gravitational imprisonment device for 4 seconds, slowing enemy units by 28/32/36/40/44% and adding a stack every .5 seconds. At 3 stacks the target is stunned for 1.5 seconds.

 

Viktor E

 

Death Ray New IconDeath Ray [ E ]

Cooldown: 13/12/11/10/9  seconds || Mana Cost: 70/80/90/100/110 || Range: 700

Viktor uses his robotic arm to fire a chaos beam that cuts across the field in a line, dealing 70/115/160/205/250 (+ .7 AP) magic damage to every enemy in its path.

[ Note ] Missile speed of base and augmented version decreased from 2000 to 1500 compared to live.

 

Viktor R

 

Chaos Storm New IconChaos Storm [ R ]

Cooldown: 120/110/100 seconds || Mana Cost: 100 || Range: 700

Viktor conjures a singularity at target location, dealing 150/250/350 (+ 0.55 AP) magic damage and interrupting enemy channels.

Viktor can redirect the singularity for 7 seconds, causing 30/60/90 (+0.2 AP) magic damage every second to nearby enemies. The singularity will move slower as it attempts to move farther away from Viktor.

 

Augment Q

 

Augment TurbochargeAugment – Turbocharge [ Q ] : Viktor gains 30% Movement Speed for 2.5 seconds.

 

 

 

Augment W

 

Augment ImplosionAugment – Implosion [ W ] : Enemies stunned by Gravity Field are dragged to the center.

 

 

 

Augment E

 

Augment AftershockAugment – Aftershock [ E ] : An explosion follows the Death Ray’s wake, dealing 70 (+ 0.7 AP) magic damage. Enemies already hit by Death Ray will take 40% damage.

 

 

Augment R

 

Augment Velocity Augment – Velocity [ R ] : Chaos Storm Moves 20% faster.

[ Note ] Automatically granted when the Hexacore is fully upgraded.

 

 

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Soraka New Portrait

General

  • Base HP reduced from 405 to 398 (lvl 0)
  • HP-per-level increased from 76 to 78
  • HP-per-second per level decreased from 0.16 to 0.14
  • Mana pool increased from 240 to 250
  • Mana-per-second increased from 1.36 to 1.56
  • Base Movement Speed decreased from 340 to 325
  • Base Magic Resist still 30
  • Base Armor still 17
  • HP-per-second decreased from 0.9 to 0.7

 


Luminary New Icon
Luminary [ Passive ]

Soraka gain 70% Bonus Movement Speed when running towards allies who are below 40%.

 


Starcall New IconStarcall [ Q ]

Cooldown: 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 seconds || Cost: 70/75/80/85/90 Mana

Calls down a star at target location. Enemies standing in the explosion radius take 70/110/150/190/230 (+0.35 AP) magic damage. Enemies standing in the center take 150% damage ( 105/165/225/285/345 (+0.52 AP) ) and are slowed by 30/35/40/45/50% for 2 seconds.

 

Soraka New Q

 


Astral Infusion New IconAstral Infusion [ W ]

Cooldown: 4 / 3.5 / 3 / 2.5 / 2 seconds || Cost: 10% of Max HP  + 20/25/30/35/40 Mana || Range: 450

Active: Restores 120/150/180/210/240 (+0.6 AP) Health to target ally. Cannot be cast if Soraka is below 5% Health.
Passive: Each enemy Champion hit by Starcall heals Soraka for 25/35/45/55/65 (+0.4 AP) – 50/70/90/110/130 (+0.4 AP), depending on Soraka’s missing HP.

 


Equinox New IconEquinox [ E ]

Cooldown: 18/17/16/15/14 seconds || Cost: 70 Mana || Range: 925

On Enemy Cast: Creates a zone at target location for 1.5 seconds. Enemies standing in the zone are silenced until they leave. When the zone disappears, all enemies still standing on the zone are rooted for 1/1.3/1.5/1.8/2 second(s). The zone deals an initial 70/110/150/190/230 (+0.4 AP) magic damage to Champions where it’s cast and deals the same damage again when the duration ends.

 

Soraka New E

 


Wish New IconWish [ R ]

Cooldown: 160/145/130 Seconds || Cost: 100 Mana || Range: Global

Calls upon divine powers to restore 150/250/350 (+0.55 AP) Health to all allied Champions. Wish’s power is increased by 50% on each Champion below 40% Health and it removes any Grievious Wounds debuffs from allies before healing.

 

 

Order of the Lotus Karma Banner

 

[ Note ] Order of the Lotus Karma will be available for 975 RP after Patch 4.17 hits live (September 23rd).

 

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Lotus Karma Model

 

Lotus Karma Mantra State

Order of the Lotus Karma in her Mantra‘d state.

 

Lotus Karma Recall

For her recall animation, Lotus Karma fans herself and a string instrument plays.

 

Inner Flame Lotus Karma

Inner Flame [ Q ]

 

Focused Resolve Lotus Karma

Focused Resolve [ W ]

 

 Inspire Lotus Karma

 Inspire [ E ]

 

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Soulflare [ Mantra Q ]

 

Lotus Karma Mantra E 1

Lotus Karma Mantra E 2

Defiance [ Mantra E ]

 

 

Fnatic Skins Banner

 Fnatic are getting their team skins for winning Season 1’s World Championship.

 

 

Fnatic’s skins will be available for 750 RP each after Patch 4.17 hits live (September 23rd).

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From left to right: Fnatic Corki, Janna, Gragas, Jarvan IV and Karthus

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Fnatic Corki

 

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Fnatic Gragas

 

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Fnatic Janna

 

Fnatic Janna Model 1 Fnatic Janna Model 2

 

Fnatic Jarvan IV

 

Fnatic Jarvan Updated

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Fnatic Karthus

 

Fnatic Karthus Model 1 Fnatic Karthus Model 2

 

 

Texture Rebalances

 

Don’t know what “texture rebalancing” means? Here’s a summary of red posts on the topic:

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[ Note ] I didn’t have a PBE account with all content unlocked when these changes took place, so I was only able to screenshot very few changes, as an example. For a full comparison of the old-new textures, check out the coverage the folks at Surrender@20 have put up.

 

 

Classic Akali

 

Classic Akali Updated

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Red Baron Corki

 

Red Baron Corki Updated

Red Baron Corki Updated 2

 

Jailbreak Graves

 

Jailbreak Graves Update 1

Jailbreak Graves Update 2

 

 

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Here’s this year’s Login Screen for Worlds (video by FrostyNinja):

 

 

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Worlds 2014 Icons


 

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16 09 Champion Changes


 

 

Cassiopeia Final Portrait

[ Note ] Cassiopeia was reworked in Patch 4.16. You can read a summary of the feedback Riot got on her here.

  • Base mana increased from 250 to 270
  • Mana-per-level increased from 50 to 60

 

Noxious Blast New IconNoxious Blast [ Q ]

  • AP ratio increased from 0.35 to 0.45

 

 

 

Garen Final Portrait

 

Perseverance New IconPerseverance [ Passive ]

  • When Garen reaches level 11, damage from non-epic monsters will no longer stop Perseverance, the cooldown between taking damage is decreased from 9 seconds to 6 and the health-per-second is increased from 0.4% to 0.8% (per second)
  • When Garen reaches level 16, the cooldown is decreased to 4 seconds and the healing is increased to 2%

 

 

LeBlanc Final Portrait

 

Mirror Image New IconMirror Image [ Passive ]

  • When dropped to 40% HP, LeBlanc goes invisible for 1 second, increased from 0.5 seconds

 

Distortion New IconDistortion [ W ]

  • Time during which LeBlanc can re-activate Distortion increased from 3 seconds to 4

 

 

 

Maokai Final Portrait

 

Vengeful Maelstrom New IconVengeful Maelstrom [ R ]

  • Maokai can now store up to 100/150/200 magic damage, decreased from 200/250/300

 

 

 

Nidalee Final Portrait

General

  • Base Attack Damage reduced from 49 to 44
  • Base Attack Speed reduced from 0.670 to 0.638

 

Takedown New IconTakedown [ Cougar Q ] 

  • Attack Damage ratio reduced from 1.0/2.5/3.33 to 0.8/2.0/2.67  (min/max/max Hunt)
  • Ability Power ratio increased from 0.24/0.6/0.8 to 0.3/0.75/1.0  (min/max/max Hunt)

 

Pounce New IconPounce [ Cougar W ]

  • Pounce cooldown reduction mechanic added to Hunted Pounce (removed from Hunted Swipe)
  • Pounce cooldown reduction mechanics baseline effect increased from 1.0 seconds to 1.5
  • Cooldown reduction mechanics on Pounce now affected by Nidalee’s Cooldown Reduction stat

 

Swipe New IconSwipe [ Cougar E ]

  • No longer affects the cooldown of Pounce when used on a Hunted target

 

 

Clarity on PBE Nidalee changes

Repertoir New PortraitHey all,

Now that Nidalee has been out and about on the Live environment for awhile, we wanted to make some changes to her to address a few issues. There are all sorts of ideas floating around out there as to what to do about her, ranging from ‘leave her alone’ to ‘please just delete her.’ Not too surprisingly, I’m sure, we haven’t opted for either of those, but here’s what we have decided to do.

One of the paramount problems with Nidalee in from a playing against perspective is that she doesn’t offer opponents meaningful windows during which they can put their guard down or feel like they have the upper hand, especially during the laning phase. Nidalee is intended to have short periods of time between Javelin Toss cooldowns where she is somewhat less dangerous, but when she builds primarily AD duelist items, that weakness seems like it’s hardly there anymore. To that end, the approach we are taking is one that will hopefully help to emphasize her windows of strength and weakness, and we feel that moving her more toward the direction of AP or AP bruiser will help with that. AP builds almost always have lower power from basic attacks, so we think that if she can move a bit in that direction, she won’t pose a such a high constant level of threat to opponents, particularly in the lane phase.

One final thing to note is that Nidalee is not exactly known for her incredible teamfighting capabilities, and a large contributor to that is that she actually offers opponents so many ways to play against her in a teamfight environment. As such, we’ve made a small change to the way the Pounce reset on Hunt works to give Nidalee players more consistent results on the mobility end when Hunting.

[ Link to Post ]

 

 

Rammus New Portrait

 

Powerball New IconPower Ball [ Q ] 

  • Activating Defensive Ball Curl while in Power Ball will now continue the Power Ball for one second instead of canceling it instantly (doesn’t add extra duration to Power Ball).

 

Defensive Ball Curl New IconDefensive Ball Curl [ W ]

  • Activating Power Ball while in Defensive Ball Curl will now continue the Defensive Ball Curl for one second instead of canceling it instantly (doesn’t add extra duration to Defensive Ball Curl).

 

 

Talon Final Portrait

 

Cutthroat New IconCutthroat [ E ]

  • Now slows the target by 99% for 0.25 seconds
  • No longer silences

 

 

 

Tristana Final Portrait

 

Buster Shot New IconBuster Shot [ R ]

  • Cooldown increased from 60 seconds at all ranks to 100/85/70

 

 

 

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PBE 18/09 Content:

 

[ Reminder ] The PBE is a testing ground for changes. What you see here may not reflect what you see in Patch Notes. Remember that developers want your feedback so if you disagree with a change, you can always submit your thoughts on the PBE Community Forums.

[ Note ] Summoner’s Rift Visual Update has been removed from the PBE and will not be shipping with Patch 4.17.

 

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Texture Rebalances 19 09 Banner

 

Jailbreak Graves now has a gray-blue facial hair and his armament glows a bit brighter.

 

Jailbreak Graves Update 1 Jailbreak Graves Update 2

 

 

Champion Changes 18 09

 

 

Cassiopeia Final Portrait

 

[ Note ] Cassiopeia was reworked in Patch 4.16.

  • Base mana increased from 250 to 270
  • Mana-per-level increased from 50 to 60

 

Noxious Blast New IconNoxious Blast [ Q ]

  • AP ratio increased from 0.35 to 0.45

 

 

Soraka Final Portrait

 

[ Note ] Soraka has been reworked on the PBE. Link to changelist.

  • Base Armor increased from 16 to 17
  • Base Magic Resist decreased from 32 to 30
  • HP-per-second per level decreased from 0.16 to 0.14
  • HP-per-level decreased from 80 to 78

 

Astral Infusion New IconAstral Infusion [ W ]

  • AP Ratio on self heal from Q decreased from 0.6 to 0.4

 

 

Talon Final Portrait

 

[ Note ] Talon’s E was recently changed on the PBE to no longer silence, but slow instead. Link to changes.

 

Cutthroat New IconCuttthroat [ E ]

  • Slow duration increased from 0.1 seconds to 0.25

 

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at @NoL_Chefo or e-mail me at nolchefo@gmail.com.